Hot r Not
Senior Member
Here's another issue with mounting the cage in the frame. I ride a small frame and getting the bottle in and out of the cage requires some wrestling. The bottle hits the top tube and I feel like I'm going to break the cage.
![Danny01 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
I did not try to use the Kestrel bb with the Shimano crank. I did not look at it closely, but it was not Shimano. I replaced it with the Shimano bsa.
![Danny01 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Liked 736 Times
in
469 Posts
I get it. You don't like the sofa or the bike. Honestly I don't like the sofa either, that's why it's in a storage room. And the saddle bag, I can't stand bike mounted man satchels. They don't belong on road bikes. I've never seen one that isn't ugly. XLAB doesn't make anything like the Aeroclam that I have mounted. They make ugly satchels like every other brand. So it (the Aeroclam) is definitely not tri, TT, or "XLAB style". OTOH you have a point regarding the bottle cage position. Its not there to be aero, like it is on tri bikes when placed between the aero bars. Actually it probably adds more drag than having it on the down tube since I don't have aero bars. But its there because I hate reaching down to grab my bottle. I'd rather reach for the bottle in my middle jersey pocket than on the downtube. I looked at handlebar mount cage holders, they all looked dorky. This was the cleanest way to mount it somewhere easily reachable.
I've spent a bit of time going back and looking at A LOT of HOT bikes on this thread, but it seems every time I came across one of your replies, it was always negative. Come on, you must think some of these bikes ARE pretty HOT.
I've spent a bit of time going back and looking at A LOT of HOT bikes on this thread, but it seems every time I came across one of your replies, it was always negative. Come on, you must think some of these bikes ARE pretty HOT.
Now that you have pointed out the brand and I looked at it online, I think the Aeroclam is pretty cool. We can argue whether the XLAB Aero Pouch 300 is "like" the Aeroclam and it might be semantics but I think it is similar in appearance.
Not all negative. I thought the Litespeed with level top tube in post 21749 was hot and said so. The Super Six EVO in post 21762 was hot even from the factory and I told the owner that it was sexy. There are many nice bikes but few are truly hot, that's all. If you put your bike out there on the HrN thread then you have to be ready to take some criticism. I'm sorry if my comments upset you but you can't get all bent out of shape here. You have an extremely nice bike and there is a guy near me who rides a truly hot Talon.
Try a flatter 17° stem before you cut the steerer.
Last edited by TimothyH; 01-02-16 at 10:59 PM.
![TimothyH is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
I like the sofa and actually have two XLAB satchel style (as you put it) saddle bags. You are absolutely right about the look of some of the bags out there - many look like rebranded ladies handbags or canvas tool boxes from Home Depot. I miss my Pedro's Blowout Bag.
Now that you have pointed out the brand and I looked at it online, I think the Aeroclam is pretty cool. We can argue whether the XLAB Aero Pouch 300 is "like" the Aeroclam and it might be semantics but I think it is similar in appearance.
Now that you have pointed out the brand and I looked at it online, I think the Aeroclam is pretty cool. We can argue whether the XLAB Aero Pouch 300 is "like" the Aeroclam and it might be semantics but I think it is similar in appearance.
Not all negative. I thought the Litespeed with level top tube in post 21749 was hot and said so. The Super Six EVO in post 21762 was hot even from the factory and I told the owner that it was sexy. There are many nice bikes but few are truly hot, that's all. If you put your bike out there on the HrN thread then you have to be ready to take some criticism. I'm sorry if my comments upset you but you can't get all bent out of shape here. You have an extremely nice bike and there is a guy near me who rides a truly hot Talon.
Last edited by Danny01; 01-02-16 at 11:24 PM.
![Danny01 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
Lukewarm. The bike is hot. That cage contraption that you have going on, that is a complete fail. Try a side entry cage for the frame, something like the Specialized Zee cage. Should clean that mess on the handlebars up rather nicely. Is that saddle angle really how you ride?
![TenSpeedV2 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
Lukewarm. The bike is hot. That cage contraption that you have going on, that is a complete fail. Try a side entry cage for the frame, something like the Specialized Zee cage. Should clean that mess on the handlebars up rather nicely. Is that saddle angle really how you ride?
![Danny01 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
That's because it is angled down too far. Try angling it up more. Most people I know and ride with have them completely level. Mine are like that on all of my bikes regardless of what type.
![TenSpeedV2 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Quick question. I see people talking about slamming their stems. What does that mean?
![kkapdolee is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
![raisinberry777 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
On Your Left
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
Posts: 8,373
Bikes: Trek Emonda SLR, Sram eTap, Zipp 303
Liked 2,434 Times
in
1,187 Posts
![GlennR is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,435
Bikes: Colnago, Cervelo, Scott
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
![Silvercivic27 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Advocatus Diaboli
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Wherever I am
Posts: 8,794
Bikes: Merlin Cyrene, Nashbar steel CX
Liked 1,580 Times
in
1,037 Posts
On the slammed stem thing... what does the 41 brain trust say about choice of A) Slam stem but have to flip stem so it's angled upward, vs. B) Don't slam stem but have a couple spacers or so, but with stem flipped so it's in its downward angled position ?
![Sy Reene is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
Posts: 2,755
Bikes: Merlin Extra Light, Orbea Orca, Ritchey Outback,Tomac Revolver Mountain Bike, Cannondale Crit 3.0 now used for time trials.
Liked 56 Times
in
35 Posts
![Fox Farm is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
Curious about this as well...
![Danny01 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 367
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Definitely flipped with spacers under the stem looks better than slammed with the stem upward (IMO). I'm no good at physics, but I'd expect the former would actually handle better for most people than the latter.
![Xherion is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago
Posts: 13
Bikes: cheap ones
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Oval cranks use a SRAM-style spindle that tapers at the end. The drive side bottom bracket bearing has an inside diameter of 24mm; the non-drive side is 22mm. You'll need a Shimano BB, where both bearings are 24mm, for a Shimano crank.
![squee102 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
King Hoternot
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Oregon City, OR
Posts: 5,255
Bikes: 2015 Cannondale Evo Hi mod
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
![bianchi10 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Posts: 830
Bikes: 16 Haibike Sdruo Cross SM
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
That BMC , is that the rock band Stryper's bike?
https://www.christianrocktruth.net/wp...r_stryper.jpeg
https://www.christianrocktruth.net/wp...r_stryper.jpeg
![2702 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
Senior Member
![Danny01 is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
On Your Left
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
Posts: 8,373
Bikes: Trek Emonda SLR, Sram eTap, Zipp 303
Liked 2,434 Times
in
1,187 Posts
In the saddle bag is a spare tube, 2 tire levers, 2 CO2 with a head, a multi tool and a tire boot. Just a bit too much to carry in my jersey pocket.
Is this better?
![Wink](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
![](https://www.glenn-ring.com/emonda/Emonda4.jpg)
![GlennR is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
- Soli Deo Gloria -
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 14,779
Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Liked 736 Times
in
469 Posts
The bumble bee themed BMC hits the mark even with a sloping top tube. The handlebar is level as it is supposed to be. The shallow slope on the top tube helps this bike a lot.
None of this however, will ever look as good as a bike with a level top tube and stem to match.
Red, yellow or chrome bikes are allowed to break the above rules in proportion to the gloss of the paint.
Last edited by TimothyH; 01-04-16 at 08:36 AM.
![TimothyH is offline](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif)