Originally Posted by kbarch (Post 18638547)

I'm tired of Enve, and never cared much for mostly black bikes, or C'dales, but as such bikes go, I find this one mildly attractive. Not hot, but not not, either. Wouldn't kick it out of bed for eating crackers, as they say

Originally Posted by jtaylor996 (Post 18638629)

Yeah, pic is taken from below the bike. Handlebars are pretty up there, though. The bars and saddle are the result of a retul ($$$) bike fit just a couple of weeks ago. I'm not going to mess that up just to take a picture, though. The intent is to lower the bars more and more as my flexibility improves... but it's just not there yet, and I ride this bike too much to leave it set up for looks.

In fact now that I put the shorter quarq cranks on there I should be OK'd for raising the saddle up another 5mm in a few weeks. It's lower than optimal for knee extension/flexion, but if you optimize for that my tracking goes to crap. So this for now while I learn a different stroke technique, shorter cranks, 10mm longer stem, and then after I get used to (and loosen up my hamstrings) then we can go up to the proper seat hight.

Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 18638618)

Tired of ENVE? Please explain.

Originally Posted by kbarch (Post 18638813)

I really don't know much about the stuff except that it seems like all some people have to do is show an Enve decal and folks start drooling like Pavlov's dog. It's tiresome, and I think it's a stupid name. You asked. :)

Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 18638663)

I was talking about the nose down angle of the saddle. That usually leads to pressure on the hands, and numbness in the groin. The bars also look rotated up to compensate for the slope of the saddle. Both could just be due to the photo. I doubt a competent fitter would setup a bike they way it appears from that vantage point. It's probably just the photo.

Originally Posted by jtaylor996 (Post 18639002)

A GOOD fitter is going to use tools to measure every aspect of the setup, and NOT just go by some dumb rule of thumb about the saddle angle.

Originally Posted by Doge (Post 18638838)

Getting ready for a fast Easter Sunday Como Street ride tomorrow. A few oz under 14#.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=511760

Originally Posted by Doge (Post 18638838)

Getting ready for a fast Easter Sunday Como Street ride tomorrow. A few oz under 14#.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=511760

Originally Posted by gorn1120 (Post 18639411)

Hot :)

Bike looks great! I'm still awaiting purchase of a road bike, but I figured I'd still participate.

Originally Posted by Lasrsktr (Post 18631967)

Lets see how these two fare with the masses...

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=511266
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=511265

Originally Posted by Danny01 (Post 18605599)

Slammed the stem and put on new bars since last post. Still trying to figure out a way to get a second bottle cage on the frame.

Originally Posted by Lasrsktr (Post 18640111)

And some people (like myself) like having the valve stem caps. The weight is negligible and not having my valves corroded shut from the marine air is a very nice thing.

Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 18638852)

it is a stupid name, but they ran into copyright issues under the original name (Edge) so it was was changed slightly.

I can't help you with hating the product though. They make great products, but now I'm also a little tired of they way they are treating companies that buy their tubing.

They gave me some hoops a few years ago, but now the have gotten a bit full of themselves.

Originally Posted by Lasrsktr (Post 18631967)

Lets see how these two fare with the masses...

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=511266
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=511265

Originally Posted by Fox Farm (Post 18653190)

I run some Boyd 44 Carbon wheels that cost about 1/3 of the price of ENVE wheels. I would not suggest that Boyds are 1/3 the quality or engineering of the ENVE wheels.

Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 18653606)

manufacturing costs are higher for ENVE hoops(US made) and spoke holes are not drilled. They definitely cost more to produce, and are higher quality, but the price difference is still a little much.

I purchased a wheelset from Workswell recently, but haven't ha a chance to use the yet. I am curious to see if I notice a difference other that weight on the scale.

Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 18654055)

Prepared for the lashing. No white garage door and no gears on the bike.

http://i.imgur.com/nUEtWiA.jpg