Tiagra shifters are garbage
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New bike, huh? New bike cables stretch out a little bit in the first 200-300 miles, and need to be adjusted. I'm surprised that your LBS, or whomever you bought it from did not tell you that. Take it in for a quick adjustment, and it will be fine.
The shifters also get a little loose as the chain stretches over time. The heavier you are, the faster it will stretch. A quick adjustment is all your bike will need then as well.
The shifters also get a little loose as the chain stretches over time. The heavier you are, the faster it will stretch. A quick adjustment is all your bike will need then as well.
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Amazon doesn't build bikes. I know you're hell-bent on doing this yourself, but really, take it to a LBS and pay the $50 to have them do it for you. Next time you'll know why it's cheaper online; they don't have to pay mechanics to adjust it for you.
If the rear derailleur came unadjusted, I would be very concerned about other aspects of the bike that are not yet fit for use. Are the brakes properly tensioned? Are the handlebars and brifters adjusted right, and is the stem securely fastened? Is the seat positioned where it needs to be? Is your front derailleur's limit screws set correctly, as well as its indexing?
If the rear derailleur came unadjusted, I would be very concerned about other aspects of the bike that are not yet fit for use. Are the brakes properly tensioned? Are the handlebars and brifters adjusted right, and is the stem securely fastened? Is the seat positioned where it needs to be? Is your front derailleur's limit screws set correctly, as well as its indexing?
The rear brakes came setup. I had to setup the front brakes. THat wasn't too hard. Handle bars and shifters are adjusted by me once again. the stem is fastened by me. The seat was positioned by me. I think the front derailleurs are fine and it was adjusted.
Ok, for all of you who thought that i am dumb, well big surprise. i am not dumb. I took it to the LBS, and it didn't take no 10 minutes. It was about 20-30 minutes. And it wasn't just the derailleurs. they had to mess with the shifter and used new cables, because the ones i had was too long. it was like a freakin open heart surgery. 2 male doctors and 1 female doctor were working on it. The first guy failed, then the second guy came to try it out and failed, the chick came and failed, then the frst guy came back and success.
it caused 9 bucks but with the new cables and all that it caused 15 bucks and it was done on the spot so it was cool.
and btw, at no point was i pissed off at the forum members like some people claim. just because i said "what the hell?" doesn't mean that i'm pissed at anyone.
thanks mans
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Ok, for all of you who thought that i am dumb, well big surprise. i am not dumb. I took it to the LBS, and it didn't take no 10 minutes. It was about 20-30 minutes. And it wasn't just the derailleurs. they had to mess with the shifter and used new cables, because the ones i had was too long. it was like a freakin open heart surgery. 2 male doctors and 1 female doctor were working on it. The first guy failed, then the second guy came to try it out and failed, the chick came and failed, then the frst guy came back and success.
it caused 9 bucks but with the new cables and all that it caused 15 bucks and it was done on the spot so it was cool.
and btw, at no point was i pissed off at the forum members like some people claim. just because i said "what the hell?" doesn't mean that i'm pissed at anyone.
thanks mans
it caused 9 bucks but with the new cables and all that it caused 15 bucks and it was done on the spot so it was cool.
and btw, at no point was i pissed off at the forum members like some people claim. just because i said "what the hell?" doesn't mean that i'm pissed at anyone.
thanks mans
1. Untighten the cable.
2. Shift to the highest gear.
3. Pull cable.
4. Tighten the cable to the holder.
5. Cut cable.
6. Adjust.
This should take no more than 3 minutes. If the cable housing was too long, add another 3 minutes top.
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4ero, you may think all that stuff was done correctly, unless you had past experiences with wrenching a bike, you didn't do everything "LBS mechanic" correctly. There are things you cannot intuitively know, and just because it works doesn't mean it is adjusted completely and properly.
For example, if your front derailer is shifting, that is one thing, but under some circumstances it could drop the chain easily if the limits are too far out.
Your brakes may be stopping you, but the pads may be rubbing the tire, and could cause a sidewall blowout.
Your stem may be on, but unless you know the feel for the correct tightness, then it may turn independently of the wheel, causing a crash. Plus your headset very likely has play if you did not adjust it. just because you can steer does not equal it being correctly adjusted.
For example, if your front derailer is shifting, that is one thing, but under some circumstances it could drop the chain easily if the limits are too far out.
Your brakes may be stopping you, but the pads may be rubbing the tire, and could cause a sidewall blowout.
Your stem may be on, but unless you know the feel for the correct tightness, then it may turn independently of the wheel, causing a crash. Plus your headset very likely has play if you did not adjust it. just because you can steer does not equal it being correctly adjusted.
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On a semi related note.
I stopped by the shop I used to work at just to say hi and chat for a bit. I went to the basement where all the repairs are done and checked out the section where the higher end service bikes are stored. There are always a few really nice bikes.
There was a yellow Raleigh Prestige with full Record and an Easton EC90 fork. Pricey bike. Here is the funny part. The frame was a 55-56. The owner had called Easton to find out the maximum amount of steerer that could be used, 4in. So it had 4 inches of spacers and an unflipped stem. But the reason that he had brought the bike in is that he could only get the bike to shift to the smallest two gears on the back. Any guesses why?
I stopped by the shop I used to work at just to say hi and chat for a bit. I went to the basement where all the repairs are done and checked out the section where the higher end service bikes are stored. There are always a few really nice bikes.
There was a yellow Raleigh Prestige with full Record and an Easton EC90 fork. Pricey bike. Here is the funny part. The frame was a 55-56. The owner had called Easton to find out the maximum amount of steerer that could be used, 4in. So it had 4 inches of spacers and an unflipped stem. But the reason that he had brought the bike in is that he could only get the bike to shift to the smallest two gears on the back. Any guesses why?
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Ok, for all of you who thought that i am dumb, well big surprise. i am not dumb. I took it to the LBS, and it didn't take no 10 minutes. It was about 20-30 minutes. And it wasn't just the derailleurs. they had to mess with the shifter and used new cables, because the ones i had was too long. it was like a freakin open heart surgery. 2 male doctors and 1 female doctor were working on it. The first guy failed, then the second guy came to try it out and failed, the chick came and failed, then the frst guy came back and success.
it caused 9 bucks but with the new cables and all that it caused 15 bucks and it was done on the spot so it was cool.
thanks mans
it caused 9 bucks but with the new cables and all that it caused 15 bucks and it was done on the spot so it was cool.
thanks mans
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I don't even have a post in this thread, and you all managed to produce a thread rife with jerkass-ocity and hate the likes of which haven't been seen since the last Pcad blog update.
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Yeah he only needed adjustment.
However, Tiagra IS garbage. Having tiagra or less on a hybrid or a grocery getter w/ fenders and saddle bags is one thing. But on a road bike in the sport of cycling, what all of us are here for, I would not accept anything less than 105*. Sorry.
I know this is not the prevailing opinion on the forum. But it is my opinion.
(*If Shimano group. I know someone will point out the existence of Campy and SRAM if I don't add this disclaimer, as if we didn't know there were three manufacturers...)
However, Tiagra IS garbage. Having tiagra or less on a hybrid or a grocery getter w/ fenders and saddle bags is one thing. But on a road bike in the sport of cycling, what all of us are here for, I would not accept anything less than 105*. Sorry.
I know this is not the prevailing opinion on the forum. But it is my opinion.
(*If Shimano group. I know someone will point out the existence of Campy and SRAM if I don't add this disclaimer, as if we didn't know there were three manufacturers...)
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However, Tiagra IS garbage. Having tiagra or less on a hybrid or a grocery getter w/ fenders and saddle bags is one thing. But on a road bike in the sport of cycling, what all of us are here for, I would not accept anything less than 105*. Sorry.
I know this is not the prevailing opinion on the forum. But it is my opinion.
(*If Shimano group. I know someone will point out the existence of Campy and SRAM if I don't add this disclaimer, as if we didn't know there were three manufacturers...)
I know this is not the prevailing opinion on the forum. But it is my opinion.
(*If Shimano group. I know someone will point out the existence of Campy and SRAM if I don't add this disclaimer, as if we didn't know there were three manufacturers...)
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Yeah he only needed adjustment.
However, Tiagra IS garbage. Having tiagra or less on a hybrid or a grocery getter w/ fenders and saddle bags is one thing. But on a road bike in the sport of cycling, what all of us are here for, I would not accept anything less than 105*. Sorry.
I know this is not the prevailing opinion on the forum. But it is my opinion.
(*If Shimano group. I know someone will point out the existence of Campy and SRAM if I don't add this disclaimer, as if we didn't know there were three manufacturers...)
However, Tiagra IS garbage. Having tiagra or less on a hybrid or a grocery getter w/ fenders and saddle bags is one thing. But on a road bike in the sport of cycling, what all of us are here for, I would not accept anything less than 105*. Sorry.
I know this is not the prevailing opinion on the forum. But it is my opinion.
(*If Shimano group. I know someone will point out the existence of Campy and SRAM if I don't add this disclaimer, as if we didn't know there were three manufacturers...)
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You are not ready yet for "level 5".
Develope your 4 gear skills on the sidewalk before you explore the higher gears just like Lance did.
Bring the bike back to the LBS and they,ll certify you for the advanced gears.
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I'm sorry, 105 is garbage too if Tiagra is garbage. When I went from my Tiagra-equipped Allez to a 105-equpped TCR I didn't feel it offered any improvement in operation. May have been more durable, but I never had an issue with it in the 2K miles I put on the Allez. The 105 I blew apart at 10K miles and did the same to my next set at 10K. Ultegra is supposed to be much better. But for my money, SRAM rocks.
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