Can this be true?
#2
Sounds a little high, my TCR with D/A and open pros weighs a little under 18 on a pretty reliable scale
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Yeah, that sounds about right I guess. Actually it's less then I would expect for a 105 equipped bike. Where you expecting more or less?
My '04 58cm Trek 2200 with FSA Carbon Pro Team Issue cranks, Chris King/Velocity Aerohead wheels, Speedplay Zeros, Terry Fly Ti saddle and Tacx cages weighs in at around 18.5lbs. for comparrison.
My '04 58cm Trek 2200 with FSA Carbon Pro Team Issue cranks, Chris King/Velocity Aerohead wheels, Speedplay Zeros, Terry Fly Ti saddle and Tacx cages weighs in at around 18.5lbs. for comparrison.
#7
Well, look at it this way:
The 2003 105 grouppo (Levers, brakes, cassette, Crank, bottom bracket, chain & Derailleurs) weighs in at ~2,600 grams (or 5.75 lbs)
The Klein frame weighs in (assuming a 55cm size) at ~1,450 grams (3.25 lbs) and the fork weighs in at ~450 grams (1 lb)
The Ksyrium Elite's weigh in at ~1,750 grams (3.85 lbs)
So far this equals roughly 14 lbs
Now add the weight of these items:
Saddle:
Post:
Clamp:
Headset:
Tubes:
Tires:
Rimstrip:
Bars:
Stem:
Tape:
Cables:
Cages:
and any other doo-dad you have on your ride...
Voila, that's what your bike weighs.
WARNING:
BE VERY CAREFUL about contracting the "weight weenie" syndrome. This is a particularly virulent and nasty disease that can have disasterous consequences on your wallet!
I caught the bug and it has taken practically ALL of my excess funds. It's like I am a gram junkie or something. I should probably check myself into the Betty Ford clinic.
*on the plus side my bike is closing in on the sub 16lb barrier
The 2003 105 grouppo (Levers, brakes, cassette, Crank, bottom bracket, chain & Derailleurs) weighs in at ~2,600 grams (or 5.75 lbs)
The Klein frame weighs in (assuming a 55cm size) at ~1,450 grams (3.25 lbs) and the fork weighs in at ~450 grams (1 lb)
The Ksyrium Elite's weigh in at ~1,750 grams (3.85 lbs)
So far this equals roughly 14 lbs
Now add the weight of these items:
Saddle:
Post:
Clamp:
Headset:
Tubes:
Tires:
Rimstrip:
Bars:
Stem:
Tape:
Cables:
Cages:
and any other doo-dad you have on your ride...
Voila, that's what your bike weighs.
WARNING:
BE VERY CAREFUL about contracting the "weight weenie" syndrome. This is a particularly virulent and nasty disease that can have disasterous consequences on your wallet!
I caught the bug and it has taken practically ALL of my excess funds. It's like I am a gram junkie or something. I should probably check myself into the Betty Ford clinic.
*on the plus side my bike is closing in on the sub 16lb barrier
#8
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From: Reisterstown, Maryland, USA
Bikes: Bike 1 - Bianchi 928, Easton carbon stem, bar & seat post, Ultegra 11/23 cassette. Bike 2 - 03 Lemond Buenos Aries. FSA compact crank, Sella Italia FSK sadle and Ultegra 12/27 cassette
Why not just RIDE the bike!!
Unless you are interested in racing CAT 2 or going PRO of course (in which case you will ride what your sponsor tells you to no matter what it weighs)
Unless you are interested in racing CAT 2 or going PRO of course (in which case you will ride what your sponsor tells you to no matter what it weighs)
#9
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Bikes: 2005 Litespeed Teramo, 2000 Marinoni Leggero, 2001 Kona Major Jake (with Campy Centaur), 1997 Specialized S-Works M2, 1992 Specialized Rockhopper
some variables to keep in mind is that, when manufacturers list weight, they usually list the weight of a 52 or 54 cm frame, without pedals, botle cages, and usually with lightweight [latex] tubes. a larger frame will weigh more. period. without pedals [@ 250g], your bike probably comes in at 18.5 lbs. with latex tubes, lighter tires and no additional hardware, it's probably about 18 lbs. for a 105-equipped bike, that's pretty respectable. my 51 cm steel marinoni weighs about 19.5 lbs with pedals.
btw, unless you are a super-fit king of the mountains type, a pound or two either way on the bike will make absolutely no difference to your performance, except psychologically.
btw, unless you are a super-fit king of the mountains type, a pound or two either way on the bike will make absolutely no difference to your performance, except psychologically.
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#10
Originally Posted by velocipedio
some variables to keep in mind is that, when manufacturers list weight, they usually list the weight of a 52 or 54 cm frame, without pedals, botle cages, and usually with lightweight [latex] tubes. a larger frame will weigh more. period. without pedals [@ 250g], your bike probably comes in at 18.5 lbs. with latex tubes, lighter tires and no additional hardware, it's probably about 18 lbs. for a 105-equipped bike, that's pretty respectable. my 51 cm steel marinoni weighs about 19.5 lbs with pedals.
btw, unless you are a super-fit king of the mountains type, a pound or two either way on the bike will make absolutely no difference to your performance, except psychologically.
btw, unless you are a super-fit king of the mountains type, a pound or two either way on the bike will make absolutely no difference to your performance, except psychologically.
As far as a pound or two not making a difference though...I know that as a cat 3 racer, 2 pounds certainly makes a huge difference. As your quote states:
"Sometimes it IS the bike". Every little bit helps when you are struggling up that hill...even if it's ONLY psychologically.
#11
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i should have said "if you are a recreational rider." i know that i'm a serius weight weenie when it comes to by cyclo-cross bike, because i race 'cross and not road. for a cat3 racer, i can imagine 2 pounds would be a big deal. you're probably not carrying a lot extra when you're at your race weight, so the only place to lose it would be on the bike, or amputation [not a great option]. on the other hand, you probably have extra-light race-wheels, with lightweight tires and latex tubes to shave the pounds.
most recreational weight-weenies have to understand that, when you're talking about bike weight, you're talking about the combined weight of rider, clothing, bike and hardware. a full-dressed rider wighing 190 lbs in his kit, shoes and helmet riding a 16 lb bike, only has a 1.5% weight advantage over the same rider on a 19 lb bike.
most recreational weight-weenies have to understand that, when you're talking about bike weight, you're talking about the combined weight of rider, clothing, bike and hardware. a full-dressed rider wighing 190 lbs in his kit, shoes and helmet riding a 16 lb bike, only has a 1.5% weight advantage over the same rider on a 19 lb bike.
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#12
Originally Posted by velocipedio
i should have said "if you are a recreational rider." ...
most recreational weight-weenies have to understand that, when you're talking about bike weight, you're talking about the combined weight of rider, clothing, bike and hardware. a full-dressed rider wighing 190 lbs in his kit, shoes and helmet riding a 16 lb bike, only has a 1.5% weight advantage over the same rider on a 19 lb bike.
most recreational weight-weenies have to understand that, when you're talking about bike weight, you're talking about the combined weight of rider, clothing, bike and hardware. a full-dressed rider wighing 190 lbs in his kit, shoes and helmet riding a 16 lb bike, only has a 1.5% weight advantage over the same rider on a 19 lb bike.






