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Old 09-25-08, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LowCel
I know you will find it hard to believe but we aren't all "IB puppets". I was a mod long before IB took over. I still perform my "job" the exact same way I did it before they took over. I try to be as fair as possible and as open minded as possible. I consider the people on this forum to be friends, actual people, not just anonymous people on the internet. I would actually enjoy riding with pretty much every member here. I also would like to be able to wear a bf jersey or shirt without having to worry about people wanting to kill me because I have been unfair to them on the internet. I am the first to admit that I have made some mistakes and I surely will make some more. I just hope that everyone here will give me the chance to try to make things right when I do screw up.

Before I would become a "puppet" or do something that was against my moral values I would step down from my position.
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Originally Posted by RoadToNowhere
I thought this WAS the road forum.

My feelings are hurt. I think I'd like to complain now.
I said NORMAL road threads.....
Sorry I hurt your feelings.... Here is a link to report it.
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Originally Posted by spry
Does not everyone riding in Brooklyn wind up under a bus occasionally?
No, but I ended up through a rear windshield once...
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Originally Posted by LowCel
I know you will find it hard to believe but we aren't all "IB puppets". I was a mod long before IB took over. I still perform my "job" the exact same way I did it before they took over. I try to be as fair as possible and as open minded as possible. I consider the people on this forum to be friends, actual people, not just anonymous people on the internet. I would actually enjoy riding with pretty much every member here. I also would like to be able to wear a bf jersey or shirt without having to worry about people wanting to kill me because I have been unfair to them on the internet. I am the first to admit that I have made some mistakes and I surely will make some more. I just hope that everyone here will give me the chance to try to make things right when I do screw up.

Before I would become a "puppet" or do something that was against my moral values I would step down from my position.
LC, I enjoy your contributions to the threads, think your provide a valuable service to the community (as a member and a mod), and assume I would enjoy riding with you as well. You would hand me my ass, probably twice over, but that's not the current point...

Either I'm a conspiracy theorist (a HUGE possibility for sure) or there's been changes in moderation since the IB takeover. The idea that Tom was asked to be the site administrator speaks to who is running the ship. The owner picked the head honcho and not the users. So you may not be a puppet, and Tom might not be a puppet, but you are definitely working for IB. And I say working, because although you might not be getting paid, your work is to create a peaceful environment that leads to IB profit.

All I really want is transparency. Which seems to be exactly what is not happening. I know I am harping on this "community of users" idea, but that's what a forum is. In an earlier post, Tom talked about moderation and how moderator disciplinary decisions are between the moderator and the violator/victim, and nobody else. Once again that's a top-down way of looking at power and not a community-interest way. Moderation should be in the name of what the community wants, not what IB dictates. The IB brand of moderation is "make it go away, restore peace, make profits." That leads to deleting threads, changing posts, etc. etc. I may have gone overboard in calling you a puppet (and it was actually not directed at you), but, when it comes to admin on this forum, the lack of transparency seriously blurs the line between moderation and puppetry.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
I told you where I got the numbers from. If you don't like it, then find a way to fix the search. but for now, I was using the best tools available.
One of them clearly wasn't the Search function

I've been and posted here since I started doing road cycling a year and some change ago.
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
Christ, I leave the road forum for a couple of months and there's a ****storm. I can't leave you guys alone together.

What's the two sentence recap?
Mod posts thread.
Civil war breaks out.

That's about it, really.
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Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
Thanks.

Forum moderators MiamiJim and MrCrassic have been assigned the Road Forum as one of their areas of responsibility. Please respect their decisions.

I'm sure they're great people and everything, but who the f are these guys?
Hi, ElJamoquio! My name is Crassic, and I'm a fred. Or a hack. Somewhere in between. I've been here for a year and three months now.

Wait, pcad knows me. That's all I need
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Originally Posted by LowCel
I can't believe you aren't including the guys in ss/fg in that statement. As soon as I find my yellow card you're getting one for that prejudice remark! Five lashes with a wet noodle for you old man!
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic
unknown new mod, drunk on power and short on grammar, posts inflammatory comments, and new regulations, dictated by "the highest levels" in thread.

we, the people, make our displeasure known.

That's about it, really.
fixed.
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Originally Posted by botto




My ribs hurt...
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Originally Posted by botto
fixed.
Careful, you know they don't like the truth.
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Originally Posted by txvintage
Best of luck. Let him know at least some of us would like to see him back.
I would. He was a good guy; had no idea he requested the ban.
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I'd like to know if the responses against overmoderation outnumber 'complaints' now.
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic
I would. He was a good guy; had no idea he requested the ban.
During our PM's I let him know that if needs anything or is ready to come back to let me know. He did not leave with ill feelings....
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Originally Posted by botto
fixed.
Much better. You aren't too bad with words.

Now let's work on paragraphs.
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Originally Posted by garysol1
During our PM's I let him know that if needs anything or is ready to come back to let me know. He did not leave with ill feelings....
Good; some of his points were quite entertaining.
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Originally Posted by Rowan
I am just wondering... with so many people reputedly complaining about the content of Road Cycling... where are they on this thread defending their position and supporting the mod policy? I can't see a single one!

And East Hill... you just don't get it, do you? The in-joke reflects badly on you for the people who aren't in on the gag... like a hundred thousand members and several hundred thousand more other non-member lurkers. At least SBW wisely changed hers from Bad Bad Mod.
There are still people here in this forum who think I'm tall, too .

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Originally Posted by garysol1
I said NORMAL road threads.....
Sorry I hurt your feelings.... Here is a link to report it.
I thought this WAS a normal road thread.
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Not for nothing but this BF Soap Opera beats chatting about stupid bicycles any friggin day.
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At least almost everyone around here is funny.
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic
Good; some of his points were quite entertaining.
didn't you get the memo: All threads in the 'road bike' section will be directly related to road cycling. Directly related.

entertainment is no longer allowed.
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Originally Posted by RoadToNowhere
I thought this WAS a normal road thread.
Go ride your bike.....LoL
I AM IN ABOUT 45 MINUTES.......Woo Hoo
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Isn't this where someone says, "I like pie", and then the argument ensues about which pie is best?
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior
Isn't this where someone says, "I like pie", and then the argument ensues about which pie is best?
i prefer BBQ.

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Originally Posted by botto
didn't you get the memo: All threads in the 'road bike' section will be directly related to road cycling. Directly related.

entertainment is no longer allowed.
Hmmm....Where do you see that at Botto? What memo?
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