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Old 09-24-08 | 02:58 PM
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Very well-engineered bikes. I test rode a Soloist and was flirting buying it on credit to get it sooner (didn't do it). This was their aluminum bike.

They are generally expensive, but are a very good value for your money. I rate: BUY.
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Old 09-24-08 | 03:00 PM
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Go for it. There have been so many dramatic improvements in the bicycle since Lance Armstrong won on Treks that you really have no choice, or else you won't be able to keep up with everyone else.
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I ordered a Cervelo S2. I mean, what more do you need to know?

Hey, is this the kind of snippy Road Nazi response to a newbie that they're all wringing their hands over above? News flash: it's a reasonable re-creation of what newbies get from roadies in the real world in my considerable experience. Everybody here should HTFU, LTFU and STFU.

Welcome to BF. It's a tough room kid. Let's hope it stays that way. They are trying to turn this into some ******** friggin Kum Bay Ya Wussyfest even as we speak.
Oh jezz, Even Pcad is putting caveats with his statements to avoid persecution.

I Really like Cervelos but i do find them a bit common these days, I like a bike that i don't see lots of old road nazis riding But they are very nice and perform exceptionally well .
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Old 09-24-08 | 03:08 PM
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What model was the OP looking at specifically ?
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Old 09-24-08 | 03:09 PM
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Velo is a french word...you don't pronounce Velo Vay-low so why would you pronounce Cervelo Cer-VAY_LOW?
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Old 09-24-08 | 03:15 PM
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Velo is a french word...you don't pronounce Velo Vay-low so why would you pronounce Cervelo Cer-VAY_LOW?
Because that's what it looks like with the accent on the e. Cervélo
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Old 09-24-08 | 03:28 PM
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I like to say it with an italian twist "CHer-baay-low" Confuses the hell out of the people in the bike shop.
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Old 09-24-08 | 04:10 PM
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Have you guys seen the threads on that Cervelo Forum? What a hoot! I can't get enough of it! :-) :-) :-)
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Old 09-24-08 | 04:37 PM
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I just snatched a cervelo P2 SL with dura ace; does have shimano 550 wheels... for 1250.00 (LBS demo model)

can't wait until she gets here.... NOW that the P4s are official out... watch all the auction sites for the guys just needed to get the latest and get a great deal....
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Old 09-25-08 | 09:49 AM
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I don't know what the advertisements say but back in 2001 when the Cervelo Prodigy was introduced, Columbus steel tubes, I called Toronto and asked them. They said you can pronounce it any way you want. I think its because Cervelo is a mde up name from the French velo and the Italian word for brain. But I think its mostly Italian. Just look up an English to Italian dictionary and I got this:

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brain n (organ in head) organo, anatomia cervello nm
Note: Sometimes spelled cervella.
Her brain was damaged in the accident.
L'incidente gli ha provocato danni al cervello.


I still have the Prodigy and now a new 2008 RS. The steel Prodigy rides nice. The RS is better in many ways.
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Old 09-25-08 | 10:37 AM
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Someone should call the factory and when the answer the phone - we'll know how to say it.
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Old 09-25-08 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MrCrassic
Very well-engineered bikes. I test rode a Soloist and was flirting buying it on credit to get it sooner (didn't do it). This was their aluminum bike.

They are generally expensive, but are a very good value for your money. I rate: BUY.
I disagree. They are not a good value... they are simply MARKETED as a good value. $1200 for a 1434 gram aluminum frame is a good value? Their prices are across the board are higher than most comparable bikes in my opinion.

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Old 09-25-08 | 10:48 AM
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  • That there are less expensive bikes to be had that are just as enjoyable to ride.
  • If everyone HTFU, LTFU AND STFU you'd have little to do in this place, don't bite the hand that strokes your ego.
  • Being relatively polite does NOT mean you're a wussy, and being an internet bully isn't that funny. You're somewhat amusing in a court jester kind of way so I think you're safe.
Well said
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Old 09-25-08 | 11:01 AM
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The wallpaper thread made me in real life.

https://forums.cervelo.com/forums/t/2172.aspx
Yeah wtf was that all about haha
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Old 09-25-08 | 02:25 PM
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Bikes: Cervelo Prodigy

When I bought the 2001 Cervelo Prodigy, the only Soloist available was the aluminum. Same goes for the TT bikes. They (TT) were all aluminum. Not even impressive to look at. Paint job was so, so. Not like Ridley which does powder coating and a nice clear coat. I had the Ridley for the past two years.

Today's carbon RS has a nice finish. I can't complain. My Prodigy on the other hand, I need to get it refinished, if I'm going to keep it. Maybe it will be a collector's item. Cervelo will probably never do a steel frame again.

But somehow Cervelo kept the triathletes attention. Now, if you check slowtwitch.com for the bike count after the World Ironman in Kona, you will find Cervelo way represented, amateurs and pros.

Cervelo is still relatively a small company. I hope it stays that way but in this business, you never know how things end up.
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Old 09-25-08 | 03:00 PM
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I've not had good experience with Cervelo as a frameset or as a company.

I bought an R2.5, when it was delivered, it had a bubble in the drive side chain stay. I wasnt sure if it was in the clear coat (or whatever the outer layer is called) or the carbon fiber, had to send it back to cervelo for evaluation. Took them about 6 weeks to get back to the dealer I was working with and they concluded the frame was flawed. So they shipped another R2.5. It arrived a month later. I rode it twice and it broke while I was riding it, the non-drive side drop out pulled out of the frame mid-interval. Somehow I didnt crash.

Returned the broken frame to Cervelo, who in turn told me the issue would be resolved by sending me an R3 since the R2.5 was a junk PoS frame and being discontinued. This made me very happy, only it took them 3 months to get me the frame promised. So, we're talking nearly 6 months between my purchasing (and paying for) a new cervelo frame and one actually arriving. I have 3 team mates who were on R2.5s that were recalled and replaced with R3s. Now, cervelo has identified a design/installation error flaw in the steerer tube on the fork they spec'd for the R3 and have a recall on the forks. What a P-I-T-A.

I thought the R3 fit me kind of funky, I'm short legged and longer torsoed, and always felt a bit crunched up on the bike. Also, the spec'd fsa seat tube and clamp combined with the angle of the seat tube made it not possible to get a level saddle, which was annoyinng. I rode and raced the heck out of it for a season and a half, until the R3 broke this past May in a crash (not the fault of the frame).

Being frustrated with Cervelo from my prior dealings, and given that my team sponsor shop was no longer a dealer, I replaced the R3 with a Trek Madone 5.2. I was swapping components so only wanted a frame and fork. It took Trek 1 day to ship to the shop and I was on the bike a week after paying for it - as opposed to 6 months. The build weighs the same, and the Trek is every bit the bike the R3 was.

YMMV, but I'm definitely done with Cervelo. In my experience, good engineering/design, poor build and QC, poor customer service in the response time category, and according to the shop I work with, they were a nightmare to deal with (unreasonable volume demands, no lines of credit, unresponsive).
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Old 09-25-08 | 03:06 PM
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According to the shop I work with, they were a nightmare to deal with (unreasonable volume demands, no lines of credit, unresponsive).
And yet most shops aren't going to get rid of them, they sell well because people think they are the shďt.
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Old 09-25-08 | 08:21 PM
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Someone should call the factory and when the answer the phone - we'll know how to say it.
I just did and the recording says "Thank you for calling 'sir-vel-o' cycles..."

That was a good idea. Glad I have been pronouncing it right all along.
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Old 09-25-08 | 08:29 PM
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Buddy just picked up a new R3 in white. It is very sweet and he says extremely comfortable and very responsive. What else do you need? 15.8 lbs with a mix of older Dura-ace, Sram red crank, and a custom set of wheels that weigh around 1550grams. As for personal experience my soloist team with campy record was a great bike. Excellent for road races, crits and TT's. I'd say a very good value for 1200 bucks.
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Old 09-25-08 | 08:33 PM
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Velo is a french word...you don't pronounce Velo Vay-low so why would you pronounce Cervelo Cer-VAY_LOW?
Because to anyone familiar with Spanish, Cervélo (particularly with the accent on the second e) rhymes with huelo. If they want it to rhyme with yellow, they should really remove that accent.
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Because to anyone familiar with Spanish, Cervélo (particularly with the accent on the second e) rhymes with huelo. If they want it to rhyme with yellow, they should really remove that accent.
I speak Spanish as well. The accent is generally just that it shows you which syllable to stress. The pronunciation, just like in English, comes from the arrangement of the letters. Neither Spanish nor French underwent the vowel shift that English did though, so all the vowels are pronounced differently than they are in English.

I agree that your long 'e' is correct in its sound. I just wouldn't make it long because of an accent; I would stress it though. Either way, call the company and try it out: +1-416-425-9517. I am sure they will be thrilled to get so much activity on their voice menu
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Old 09-25-08 | 09:01 PM
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I've not had good experience with Cervelo as a frameset or as a company.

I bought an R2.5, when it was delivered, it had a bubble in the drive side chain stay. I wasnt sure if it was in the clear coat (or whatever the outer layer is called) or the carbon fiber, had to send it back to cervelo for evaluation. Took them about 6 weeks to get back to the dealer I was working with and they concluded the frame was flawed. So they shipped another R2.5. It arrived a month later. I rode it twice and it broke while I was riding it, the non-drive side drop out pulled out of the frame mid-interval. Somehow I didnt crash.

Returned the broken frame to Cervelo, who in turn told me the issue would be resolved by sending me an R3 since the R2.5 was a junk PoS frame and being discontinued. This made me very happy, only it took them 3 months to get me the frame promised. So, we're talking nearly 6 months between my purchasing (and paying for) a new cervelo frame and one actually arriving. I have 3 team mates who were on R2.5s that were recalled and replaced with R3s. Now, cervelo has identified a design/installation error flaw in the steerer tube on the fork they spec'd for the R3 and have a recall on the forks. What a P-I-T-A.

I thought the R3 fit me kind of funky, I'm short legged and longer torsoed, and always felt a bit crunched up on the bike. Also, the spec'd fsa seat tube and clamp combined with the angle of the seat tube made it not possible to get a level saddle, which was annoyinng. I rode and raced the heck out of it for a season and a half, until the R3 broke this past May in a crash (not the fault of the frame).

Being frustrated with Cervelo from my prior dealings, and given that my team sponsor shop was no longer a dealer, I replaced the R3 with a Trek Madone 5.2. I was swapping components so only wanted a frame and fork. It took Trek 1 day to ship to the shop and I was on the bike a week after paying for it - as opposed to 6 months. The build weighs the same, and the Trek is every bit the bike the R3 was.

YMMV, but I'm definitely done with Cervelo. In my experience, good engineering/design, poor build and QC, poor customer service in the response time category, and according to the shop I work with, they were a nightmare to deal with (unreasonable volume demands, no lines of credit, unresponsive).
As a Cervelo dealer I can't imagine the hardship you went through. I am sorry you had a bad experience.

Seatpost-- I have no idea what you are taking about the FSA SLK 32.4 seatpost is a standard seatpost in which leveling a saddle shouldn't be a problem.

I have NEVER seen these things happen in our shop. I have been there almost 5 years. We have carried Cervelo since their early years. When the R2.5 recall happened our customers were on a their new bike within days. When the fork recall happened we already had 40 forks waiting before the announcement was made public. Every 10 forks we replaced we sent away for 10 more replacements. With other shops the warranty process on the forks was-- bring into shop, remove and return fork to Cervelo and a fork will be sent to replace it. Not at our shop we turned bikes around same day or within 1 business day.

Cervelo overnights stuff (frames, complete bikes whatever) to us all the time.

If a shop isn't cutting the mustard Cervelo WILL pull their authorized dealership. Your shop lost their Cervelo dealership for a reason. I don't know what that is but it seems to be a problem more with the shop you are/were working with than Cervelo. We have commitments (like all manufacturers) but they are not crammed down our throat, we have a line of credit and I already answered their responsiveness.

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Cervelo is an Italian word. It is Italian for brain. Figures they are nerds.

So if you want to pronounce it properly then make the ch sound as in church. But nobody says it that way so you can say it anyway you want.
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