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Old 11-17-08 | 10:19 AM
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Check out the Epic power profile chart here. It is a modified version of Coggan's work.
Indeed it is - so the question becomes, why don't you acknowledge that fact on the chart? (Especially since it is copyrighted.)
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Old 11-17-08 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Coggan
Indeed it is - so the question becomes, why don't you acknowledge that fact on the chart? (Especially since it is copyrighted.)
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Old 11-17-08 | 10:46 AM
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This thread has come full circle now!

Drunk Sexy Girl --->Brandy on new R3----> Looking at power profiles ---->Possible Copyright Infringement Lawsuit

Hope all you people who wanted to talk cycling are happy. . .. . . .
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Old 11-17-08 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Coggan
Indeed it is - so the question becomes, why don't you acknowledge that fact on the chart? (Especially since it is copyrighted.)
I acknowledge it here and I am still working on it. I apologize if I did not acknowledge on the chart itself. I will fix that immediately!! I have disabled the link in the meantime.

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Old 11-17-08 | 11:33 AM
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I think George would make an excellent coach. I may consider having him help me for 2009 season. Of course my goals would be different than someone racing - I'd want to train to do a century and to get in shape/lose weight. I've not done one in several years, I'm 52 years old, and have nerve damage to my legs. So my performance is compromised to begin with. But I'd sure be a good success story for Epic !!!!

I think I'll check it out.

But - Marketing Advise to George & Epic Training - the start of the Bad Coach thread and the drinking & shots & and the boobs & long legged young hotties next door may not exactly help get the business you want. It's not very professional. Some BF'ers like it and that's cool (I think tittilation is word I used), but others may think it unprofessional and not wanna invest in your program if they see this stuff. Advice is: don't ever post stuff on the 'net that you might regret later. I don't think I see Carmichael or others of that caliber engaged in such activity. Keep it professional and demonstrate your assets, not her or their ass-ets. Or at least don't link it so directly with Epic. I think you're all better than that, I think you seem to be developing a great product in an expanding market and you may be able to be a big niche player, and you have personal experience to inspire and motivate. Don't mess it up with careless threads like the start of Bad Coach.

Of course advive is worth just whatcha pay for it - and my advise is free, so...........................

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Old 11-17-08 | 11:47 AM
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I think George would make an excellent coach. I may consider having him help me for 2009 season. Of course my goals would be different than someone racing - I'd want to train to do a century and to get in shape/lose weight. I've not done one in several years, I'm 52 years old, and have nerve damage to my legs. So my performance is compromised to begin with. But I'd sure be a good success story for Epic !!!!

I think I'll check it out.

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Old 11-17-08 | 11:48 AM
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George didn't start the thread. I did.

PS...while I understand your concern Mark, life is too short to be serious all the time.
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Old 11-17-08 | 11:51 AM
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I think George would make an excellent coach. I may consider having him help me for 2009 season. Of course my goals would be different than someone racing - I'd want to train to do a century and to get in shape/lose weight. I've not done one in several years, I'm 52 years old, and have nerve damage to my legs. So my performance is compromised to begin with. But I'd sure be a good success story for Epic !!!!

I think I'll check it out.

But - Marketing Advise to George & Epic Training - the start of the Bad Coach thread and the drinking & shots & and the boobs & long legged young hotties next door may not exactly help get the business you want. It's not very professional. Some BF'ers like it and that's cool (I think tittilation is word I used), but others may think it unprofessional and not wanna invest in your program if they see this stuff. Advice is: don't ever post stuff on the 'net that you might regret later. I don't think I see Carmichael or others of that caliber engaged in such activity. Keep it professional and demonstrate your assets, not her or their ass-ets. Or at least don't link it so directly with Epic. I think you're all better than that, I think you seem to be developing a great product in an expanding market and you may be able to be a big niche player, and you have personal experience to inspire and motivate. Don't mess it up with careless threads like the start of Bad Coach.

Of course advise is worth just whatcha pay for it - and my advise is free, so...........................
You make some good points, but I don't think people will be paying to have Vireo coach them, they will be paying to have George ......... coach them. Other than BF members, I doubt any other people will see this thread and link it to George.

(Boy I hope his name is actually George) Edit: I see that it is.
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Old 11-17-08 | 11:53 AM
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It's "Advice." Don't want to make a bad impression with poor spelling & grammar when giving unsolicited marketing advice.
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Old 11-17-08 | 12:07 PM
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You make some good points, but I don't think people will be paying to have Vireo coach them, they will be paying to have George ......... coach them. Other than BF members, I doubt any other people will see this thread and link it to George.

(Boy I hope his name is actually George) Edit: I see that it is.


Also good points. Listen if you can't have a little fun then your life gets boring and too serious. This is BF and not everything has to be taken so literal. I tend to work with clients where we have a good match in our personalities. One very important characteric being a sense of humor. Furthermore, we all have real lives and real jobs where we act differently than on BF. Additionally, I NEVER solicit business from BF members.
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Old 11-17-08 | 12:14 PM
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Old 11-17-08 | 12:19 PM
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I think George would make an excellent coach. I may consider having him help me for 2009 season. Of course my goals would be different than someone racing - I'd want to train to do a century and to get in shape/lose weight. I've not done one in several years, I'm 52 years old, and have nerve damage to my legs. So my performance is compromised to begin with. But I'd sure be a good success story for Epic !!!!

I think I'll check it out.

But - Marketing Advise to George & Epic Training - the start of the Bad Coach thread and the drinking & shots & and the boobs & long legged young hotties next door may not exactly help get the business you want. It's not very professional. Some BF'ers like it and that's cool (I think tittilation is word I used), but others may think it unprofessional and not wanna invest in your program if they see this stuff. Advice is: don't ever post stuff on the 'net that you might regret later. I don't think I see Carmichael or others of that caliber engaged in such activity. Keep it professional and demonstrate your assets, not her or their ass-ets. Or at least don't link it so directly with Epic. I think you're all better than that, I think you seem to be developing a great product in an expanding market and you may be able to be a big niche player, and you have personal experience to inspire and motivate. Don't mess it up with careless threads like the start of Bad Coach.

Of course advise is worth just whatcha pay for it - and my advise is free, so...........................
See on the other hand...I wouldn't want a coach that cowtowed to the stick up their butt people like you. There isn't a THING George posted that he should be embarassed by....now you however....should be embarassed that you wasted everyone's time with this post.

As am I...because mine is even worse. Lighten up....stress over stupid stuff is bad for your training.

See...even I could be a coach.
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Old 11-17-08 | 12:21 PM
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Also good points. Listen if you can't have a little fun then your life gets boring and too serious. This is BF and not everything has to be taken so literal. I tend to work with clients where we have a good match in our personalities. One very important characteric being a sense of humor. Furthermore, we all have real lives and real jobs where we act differently than on BF. Additionally, I NEVER solicit business from BF members.


But a far far far more important question is....will Brandy solicit business for you from BF members??
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Old 11-17-08 | 12:24 PM
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But a far far far more important question is....will Brandy solicit business for you from BF members??
Now that's FUNNY! She needs to get her own business
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Old 11-17-08 | 12:32 PM
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I want a coach who makes me feel better about drinking. haha
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Old 11-17-08 | 12:51 PM
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You make some good points, but I don't think people will be paying to have Vireo coach them, they will be paying to have George ......... coach them. Other than BF members, I doubt any other people will see this thread and link it to George.

(Boy I hope his name is actually George) Edit: I see that it is.

The things you say/post here definitely get around in the real world. Don't ask me how I know.

I only got here by stalking A. Coggan across the internets. Did I miss anything in the previous 8 pages?
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Old 11-17-08 | 12:53 PM
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...maybe if I was paying him, he wouldn't be trying to pawn me off on the drunkity drunk neighbor girls who are trying to lure me over to take shots with them. He dropped me off over there once already tonight, but I snuck back home (two shots later) and he keeps telling me to go back. I have to get up at 4:00 to get to the mountains. WTF?!?!?! Sabatoge. My coach is trying to sabatoge me!
Maybe he's fishing for an invite to the drunkity drunk girls' party.
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Old 11-17-08 | 12:54 PM
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Trust me when I say that George does not go easy on me when it comes to coaching. I get busted for stopping on training rides to talk to people, not following my training plans and a myriad of other things. I also get the "don't use the PowerTap as a speedometer...lap your damn climbs/intervals" whenever I forget to do it. The man analyzes every ride that I do, so Friday night and the encouragement to join the neighbors was a fluke. He knows that I am in a funk right now and thought I should take a break to have some fun.
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Maybe he's fishing for an invite to the drunkity drunk girls' party.
No fishing necessary...they wanted him over there too.
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Old 11-17-08 | 01:08 PM
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No fishing necessary...they wanted him over there too.
AND HE DIDN'T GO?!!
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Old 11-17-08 | 01:10 PM
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AND HE DIDN'T GO?!!
Well according to some posters maybe I was saved from the "dude"
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Old 11-17-08 | 01:13 PM
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but I don't think people will be paying to have Vireo coach them, they will be paying to have George ......... coach them.
Either way, I just thought it was a bit. People really use coaches?
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