Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Why would my wrenches talk trash about Neuvations?

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Why would my wrenches talk trash about Neuvations?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-22-09, 11:54 AM
  #26  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 494

Bikes: Titus Modena

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm the one pcad saw who took the stickers off. I had the SL5 front wheel and SL4 rear wheel. I thought they worked great. The bearings were very smooth. I'd still have them but I sold off the bike they were on.

Did I buy another set for the new bike being built? No.

Why not? because for $120 more I got a custom set built with similar 27mm rims (maybe even the same), lighter, stronger spokes, and dt swiss 240s hubs.

Spookykinkajou is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 11:57 AM
  #27  
Senior Member
 
jmio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Posts: 611

Bikes: raleigh carbon competition, trek 6500 hardtail

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm not embarassed that I bought neuvations, I like them plenty. The 30 something stickers are a little overkill, that's why I took them off. What's funny is, I went to my LBS with my "unbranded" (R28 aero 4's)wheels and the wrenches there were like," ohhhh cool arse rims" got tons of praise, I even let one of them take a spin around the block. (they still loved it) Once I let the cat out of the bag and told them what they were, the wrenches were singing a different tune......"should have spent the extra $ and got the mavic elites", yada yada yada, next time come here before buying online, you'll regret buying neuvations! WTF ever!
jmio is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 12:19 PM
  #28  
Peloton Shelter Dog
 
patentcad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chester, NY
Posts: 90,508

Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB

Mentioned: 74 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1142 Post(s)
Liked 28 Times in 22 Posts
Spooky did ask for my autograph, but my bodyguards fended him off.
patentcad is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 12:21 PM
  #29  
Senior Member
 
crbrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 124
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Neuvations are great for what they are. I treat them as an expendable workhorse wheelset. I use M28 SLs on my 'cross bike and they have taken a ridiculous amount of punishment while staying relatively true. I can't speak for their lighter R series. I'll probably have to replace them a few seasons down the line, but when you pay $120 for a wheelset, who cares?
crbrown is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 12:27 PM
  #30  
Senior Member
 
jmio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Posts: 611

Bikes: raleigh carbon competition, trek 6500 hardtail

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
120$ for wheelset????
jmio is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 12:31 PM
  #31  
Senior Member
 
crbrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 124
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
* refurbished and on sale. I guess they're a little bit more pricey now.
crbrown is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 12:52 PM
  #32  
Senior Member
 
Surferbruce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Los Angeles/Aveyron France
Posts: 5,308
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
my wife's neuvations- recently debadged and 100% better looking.

Surferbruce is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 01:02 PM
  #33  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Moraga, CA
Posts: 1,701

Bikes: 2008 Cervelo RS, 2011 Scott CR1 Elite, 2014 Volagi Liscio

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I like my R28s and, after taking the sixteen decals off, saved myself at least 2 grams.

You would think that the Neuvation owner would have changed his decals by now. Someone must have told him how ugly they are.
RoboCheme is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 01:05 PM
  #34  
TCR
Riding Heavens Highway
 
TCR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sunny SoCal
Posts: 1,778

Bikes: '04 Giant TCR

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I don't get the ugly thing. They don't look bad to me.

__________________
https://vvbc.us
TCR is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 01:12 PM
  #35  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,765
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1110 Post(s)
Liked 1,204 Times in 761 Posts
Originally Posted by milchad
I've been thinking about getting some R28 SL wheels and asked my LBS their opinion of them and all I got was "I bet they are flexy as hell" and "you get what you pay for". I asked them if they have ever ridden them or inspected their build quality and much to my surprise they've never even seen a set. So why all the trash talk if you've never even seen them? I've read several positive reviews on them and just wanted their opinion.
Do you really need to ask this question or are you just yakkin'?

In case it is a serious question, the answer, of course, is because they don't sell them. Why do chevy salesmen talk trash about toyota?
Camilo is online now  
Old 02-22-09, 01:12 PM
  #36  
Peloton Shelter Dog
 
patentcad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chester, NY
Posts: 90,508

Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB

Mentioned: 74 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1142 Post(s)
Liked 28 Times in 22 Posts
Originally Posted by TCR
I don't get the ugly thing. They don't look bad to me.
Neither does your avatar.
patentcad is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 01:17 PM
  #37  
TCR
Riding Heavens Highway
 
TCR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sunny SoCal
Posts: 1,778

Bikes: '04 Giant TCR

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by patentcad
Neither does your avatar.
I didn't know you cared.

__________________
https://vvbc.us
TCR is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 03:12 PM
  #38  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
milchad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Posts: 591

Bikes: 2 LeMond road bikes and a Cannondale MTB

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the photos. And I was for real asking the question because I've been dealing with the same wrenches for years and figured they would give me an honest answer had they actually dealt with the wheels 1st hand. I didn't think they'd shiit on something they have never seen. (And they usually don't mind people buying off the net). I've got a '07 LeMond Zurich with crappy Bontrager Race wheels and would like to get something to replace them.
milchad is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 03:27 PM
  #39  
Full Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sonoma County CA
Posts: 257

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Trek 5500

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've got a set of M28 Aero 3s, with ceramic bearings, that I was happy with--until the rear rim cracked at 2K miles. It was promptly replaced by Neuvation, but I've reached the conclusion that my 235# needs more than 20 spokes to assure wheel longevity. I just replaced them with Bicycle Wheel Warehouse Ultegra/DT Swiss RR 1.1, with ST Swiss Competition 2.0/1.8 spokes, which I like equally well--hopefully their 32 spokes will hold up better. Just for the record, the Neuvation braking surface is smooth as can be and the hubs run just marginally louder than the ultra-silent Ultegras. Any of you lighter guys who want to try Neuvations, PM me.
Long deKlein is offline  
Old 02-22-09, 04:11 PM
  #40  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Loveland, CO
Posts: 7,228

Bikes: Cinelli superstar disc, two Yoeleo R12

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1098 Post(s)
Liked 559 Times in 446 Posts
Originally Posted by grolby
Welded seams aren't that important. Velocity rims are pinned, and none that I've seen are mismatched at the seam. It's a rim quality issue, not a joining method issue.

And I've heard that the current generation of Neuvation wheels aren't half bad. I'm considering a rear wheel, or perhaps even a set.
Regardless, I wouldn't buy a rim that's not welded at the seam.
DaveSSS is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.