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Old 03-12-09 | 11:54 AM
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Set-Forward Seapost???

My criteria:
  • more than 16mm of forward offset
  • at least 300mm length
  • within $100, or at least within $150
  • aluminum, if possible

The criteria rules out the Thomson seatposts (only 16mm offset) and the Profile Design Fast Forward (way too short).
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Old 03-12-09 | 01:49 PM
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For a TT or Tri bike?
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Old 03-12-09 | 01:56 PM
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Alot of seatposts work fine for this if you just turn them around ass-end forward. Adjust clamps accordingly.

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Old 03-12-09 | 07:55 PM
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^^ My eternal gratitude, for not telling me which ones. And for performing the all-important task of amusing yourself.

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This would be for a road bike, a Giant Defy Advanced which in my size has a 72* seat tube angle. I like to keep my knee over the pedal spindle and with that STA, I should be able to do it with the Thomson Elite and my currently-preferred saddle but if I later went to a different saddle, one that positioned me farther back, I would need a seatpost to push me forward, probably more than 16mm.
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Old 03-12-09 | 11:19 PM
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Old 03-13-09 | 07:08 PM
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I was serious. I have no idea how what the specs are of different seatposts and saddle rails, but you'll know pretty quick what will give you the range you want. I was messing with my Time seatpost/Toupe saddle combo and turned it around, succesfully giving me lots more forward range for my saddle.

It did put the forward screw up pretty high, almost sticking up far enough to snag my bibs through the saddle cutout, but it would have worked OK. I discovered that I put out more power with my saddle further back anyway, so back it went.

So does this mean I don't win anything? I do crack me up sometimes...
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Old 03-13-09 | 07:24 PM
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^^ My eternal gratitude, for not telling me which ones. And for performing the all-important task of amusing yourself.

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This would be for a road bike, a Giant Defy Advanced which in my size has a 72* seat tube angle. I like to keep my knee over the pedal spindle and with that STA, I should be able to do it with the Thomson Elite and my currently-preferred saddle but if I later went to a different saddle, one that positioned me farther back, I would need a seatpost to push me forward, probably more than 16mm.
Sounds like the frame (top tube) is too long for you. ?

I've never seen a case where a properly-fitted rider couldn't get KOPS with, at most, a zero offset post. Maybe your upper legs are unusually short?
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Old 03-13-09 | 08:26 PM
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I was serious. I have no idea how what the specs are of different seatposts and saddle rails, but you'll know pretty quick what will give you the range you want.
I've had bad luck trying to reverse Ritchey Pro and Easton EA70 setback posts on my cross frame which has a 72.5* seat tube angle and I think that's why... the STA is so lax that it's past the threshold at which a conventional setback seatpost could be reversed.

Put differently, with a 73* or greater STA, I might be able to reverse a conventional post but I wouldn't need to because with a 10mm setback post, I have KOPS. It's with a more lax STA that I have trouble getting the saddle forward enough.

BTW I used a zero-offset post on my cross bike. Seems to be working.

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Sounds like the frame (top tube) is too long for you. ?

I've never seen a case where a properly-fitted rider couldn't get KOPS with, at most, a zero offset post. Maybe your upper legs are unusually short?
The frame's top tube isn't too long, it's 575, which is shorter than the 58 ETT's my road bikes have.

I don't know if my femurs are short but at 6'1" I do use 175mm cranks, with 8cm saddle setback, and I wouldn't want to go smaller as I like the leverage they give me when I"m out of saddle.

The bike fitter actually told me to "use 177.5 cranks if you can get em"
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Old 03-14-09 | 07:42 AM
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Maybe trying to chase KOPS with long cranks isn't the answer?
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Old 03-14-09 | 09:25 PM
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Here's what I found:
Aluminum but only 270mm:
https://www.ebikestop.com/profile_fas...0mm-ST1411.php
Carbon, 300mm:
https://www.modernbike.com/itemgroup....176177&TID=367
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Old 03-14-09 | 11:38 PM
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Bontrager XXX Zero Setback...a really nice, cheap, seat pin.
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Old 03-15-09 | 09:08 AM
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I'd stop chasing KOP. Weight balance over the saddle is more important. Quite often, KOP is too far forward, placing too much weight on the hands. Then the typical LBS solution is higher bars and a shorter stem.

https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm
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Old 03-15-09 | 10:01 AM
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wait, doesn't the Defy Advanced have an aero seatpost? Only the Defy Alliance and Standard Defy have round posts
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