Yeah, they are nice pedals. But if you are having foot issues, you really might want to check with the shop on cleat setup.

They invented the modern clipless pedal, but that wasn't the first clipless pedal. The early 1970s Cinelli M71 "Widowmaker" comes to mind:



That said, I've been using Look pedals for at least 20 years and have been satisfied with them.

i don`t like float either, and the nice thing with speedplays is that you can choose. as for cornering, i have twice on the same corner in a race hit my pedal whilst taking the curve - did a race on the same course just yesterday and no worries. the looks i`d used be4 are relatively chunky and i did have a problem with them. maybe you don`t go fast enough to worry about that...

oh and one more thing, lighten up...

If you want to get technical, we have patent drawings in our shop for a pedal that was invented in the 20's that was clipless and had a cleat that would attach to a regular shoe.

Let's say, "The first usable clipless pedal."

Bernard Hinault worked with Look to develop it.

I've been curious to try Speedplays though but not because I don't like my Keo pedals.

There hasnt been much input from people who have personally ridden several of the various different pedal systems for any extended period of time.

Most people pick a pedal system and stick with it if theres no major probelms for them. So even if theres pedal systems that they might like better or might suit them better, theyll never know. Likely one of the only times someone will switch systems is is what they chose first is absolutely terrible for them (ie. causing knee pain or always difficult to get in and out of). Even here, if their second choice is even only marginally better, theyll likely be pleased and stick with it and never try something else.

You ever gotten a paycheck to race a bike? That's rhetorical as I know the answer.

I can choose float with Looks also. There are three choices.

Lighten up? Why? Maybe you'll actually learn something.

This place never ever ceases to amaze...

So.... speedplays, right?

ok RW let`s not get silly here. i race pro\am here in japan and though i do not get paid to race i am not a novice, but congrats on coming across as a bit of a silly a*se. do you get paid to do that too? cos you`re good at it!

I like my Keos ok, I'm going to try the Time RXS next.

I went from old school quills w/ clips and straps to Dura Ace clipless that took the same cleat as the LOOK. 7400 series if I remember right. I really liked those.

Then I got a set of LOOK (black ones, chunkier than the Dura Ace), and didn't care for them so I went back to the Dura Ace. I sold the bike they were on. Should never have done that! I miss that Pinarello!

Then, I went to Shimano's SPD-R and have been on those ever since. I've not had any problems, I clip in and out without any issues, so there I am.

I've seen no reason to change for a good 10 years now. If it ain't broke, then I don't fix it. I have a few pairs to add on to any bike I may acquire in the future.

Used the old Look, then the Keo, and now the Time RXS. I have been on the Time for the last 2.5 years and can't remember a missed re-entry. On the Looks it was a constant trouble almost resulting in spills.
The Look cleats need to be changed almost every year, I am still on my first set of cleats with the RXS and they do have built-in rubber feet.
I never used the Speedplays, was tempted because of double-sided feature but, at centuries, I always see people needing to clear the cleats after walking on dirt or gravel.

Ford, inventor of the pinto, was the first to invent a mass manufactured automobile. I'll only drive Ford!

I like the way you think.

I went from Look to Speedplay to Shimano SPD-SL. I used Speedplay for many years until I switched shoes to the Sidi Genius 5.5 which aren't as stiff as other shoes I have used. The pedal shoe combination was causing my shoes to twist. When I switched to SPD-SL, this went away presumably due to the larger platform. I am very happy with the SPD-SL and don't plan to go back.

I always used to recommend speedplay, but whenever I did, I mentioned you need to choose your shoes carefully. Speedplay goes best with certain shoes. I hated having to use shims and adapter kits to get them to fit, and the shoes need to be really stiff.

Alright both of you whip out your dongs so we can measure them and see who knows more about pedals...

You're a Cub fan, right?

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So there you go....



Dude, you were the one that told me that I was not using the latest technology. After you said that, any credibility you may have had was shot.

This is like being in the bike shop. Except I can't laugh at the people that say stupid s***. I have to take them seriously.

...and make mine delta type.

I may have to rethink that in about 5-6 years.

What is this "we" stuff?

Ford made the first cars, no? Don't think they are the best anymore....
I'm nobody to talk as I use and like Shimano 7800 DA SPD-Sl's. They work well for my delicate knees. never tried the Speedplays but they look cool and I have buddies that swear by them.

OK, so speedplays are the best, right? But which speedplays are the best? For bonus points, explain why? For double jeapordy, which color?

I use SP Zeros on both my bikes; less float than other speedplays but still can be tweaked to have some float and also have a pretty firm engagement (foot won't slip out). Discuss...

edit: The sticker that comes with the pedals alone makes it superior to other pedals.

Speedplay Zeros for me.

Whoops, did not see the above post with the Pinto. Sorry about that.
Kesa101: how did you touch your pedal down while taking a corner? Inside pedal is up while cornering no?

Ford invented the automobile. Look where they are now?