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Old 05-01-09 | 12:38 PM
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Old 05-01-09 | 08:39 PM
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So what current steel bikes $1500 or less would be as durable as your '72 Gitane Tour de France, yet also lightweight?
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Old 05-01-09 | 09:26 PM
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I would honestly just go for a cheaper bike that fits you and your riding style with the intention of having a crash replacement.
that or hire a coach to work on 'not crashing'.

there has to be a reason why you are this crash prone.
That's kinda what I'm wondering about the OP. I've "crashed" once one a commute in years of doing this, and it wasn't so much a crash as laying my bike down while skidding to a stop after being right hooked.

I wonder why the OP crashes so much. Maybe the money would be better spent on body armor?
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Old 05-01-09 | 10:57 PM
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That's kinda what I'm wondering about the OP. I've "crashed" once one a commute in years of doing this, and it wasn't so much a crash as laying my bike down while skidding to a stop after being right hooked.

I wonder why the OP crashes so much. Maybe the money would be better spent on body armor?
I don't believe that I said that I have crashed often in relation to the number of rides that I have taken, but I have crashed a few times in my 12 years on my current bike. Other than minor surface scratches and a bent rear derailleur, my bike works as well as the day I bought it. I'm just ready for a new bike so I can go faster. The best frame material (and actually the best bike choice) is what is being discussed here.

I haven't seen body armor for cyclists advertised...
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Old 05-02-09 | 07:08 AM
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Old 05-02-09 | 11:04 AM
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Old 05-04-09 | 09:19 PM
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I finally got on a CAAD 9 and a Synapse, both of them only spinning in the LBS. I'm not sure how to comment. I'm 5' 10" and they put me on a 54.
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Old 05-04-09 | 09:59 PM
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I think if you are not racing, a 2k bike isn't really going to serve it's purpose. The 2k and up realm is mostly for racers and weight weenies where every pound counts. There are plenty of nice road bikes out there in the $800 range at your local LBS. Find a good deal, research the bike, ask for feedback on the bike here, etc. You can get a nice cannondale for that price.

If you do plan to race, then I suppose a 1.5k and up bike is warranted. Also road bikes have a really aggressive position about them. You might not be comfortable on a road bike, especially since you are use to a hybrid.
This sounds like reasonable advice. I did find the position of the CAAD 9 radically different from my hybrid. OTOH, I'm not totally convinced I was fitted correctly either. One thing is certain: I really LOVED the power of the CAAD even though I was only spinning on it in the bike shop. Why would I not just buy another hybrid if I was going to buy an $800 road bike? Or upgrade my present hybrid?
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Old 05-05-09 | 01:57 AM
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Just get crash protection insurance like Velosure which covers racing etc etc...at least you can buy, use and even race your machine of choice..regardless of material. Hey if you are willing to part with your $ to get your dream ride...might as well not worry about replacing it.
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Originally Posted by MongoosePaver
I think if you are not racing, a 2k bike isn't really going to serve it's purpose. The 2k and up realm is mostly for racers and weight weenies where every pound counts. There are plenty of nice road bikes out there in the $800 range at your local LBS. Find a good deal, research the bike, ask for feedback on the bike here, etc. You can get a nice cannondale for that price.

If you do plan to race, then I suppose a 1.5k and up bike is warranted. Also road bikes have a really aggressive position about them. You might not be comfortable on a road bike, especially since you are use to a hybrid.
This is a pretty naive post. Your version of "nice" is not the same as everyone else. You don't have to be a racer to appreciate and want nice components, frames and wheels. You aren't going to get those for $800 at your local LBS. The groupo on my next bike will cost a heck of lot more than $800....

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Old 05-05-09 | 03:23 AM
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The only problems I've ever seen with carbon forks involve squirrels or cars. Don't worry about the fork.

That is f-ing terrible. Whoever did that to this poor squirrel needs to get his legs taken out with a baseball bat.
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Old 05-05-09 | 06:17 AM
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True. However, Titanium is much more elastic than CF. Based on riding and crashing a Ti bike, and seeing a lot of CF bikes crashed, there is zero doubt in my mind that there are crashes where a Ti bike will spring back with little or no damage that destroy CF bikes.

Also, scrapes on Ti are much less likely to be a problem than on CF, where abrasions can be an issue.
I've never seen a Ti frame destroyed by chainsuck, I've have seen that for CF.

Nothings going to last forever. But if long term durability is the number one criteria, Ti, which doesn't rust, is springy, and not particularly prone to damage by abrasions is going to be the best bet over the long haul.

Plus, a Ti bike will keep looking good for a long time. My Merlin is 11 years old, with 40,000 miles on it, and if I would clean it would look brand new.
+1 for titanium if longevity is one of your most important criteria.
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Old 05-05-09 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bellweatherman
That is f-ing terrible. Whoever did that to this poor squirrel needs to get his legs taken out with a baseball bat.
The squirrel did that to the squirrel. Hit him with a bat if you want, but I'd dig him out of the wheel first.
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