Bikeorexia ... Cannondale purging
07-14-09, 04:34 PM
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That second shot is great UMD.
If you think explaining why a 1D is better is hard, try justifying a film rangefinder or a 1950s TLR.
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If you think explaining why a 1D is better is hard, try justifying a film rangefinder or a 1950s TLR.
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07-14-09, 07:35 PM
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07-14-09, 08:03 PM
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I've never met you. That has been my experience (generalized) of rebel users. Bust you do know that the format has nothing to do with the shooting mode, right?
07-14-09, 08:45 PM
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to the OP: I don't think the lighter bike benefits Cannondale, but the consumer who chooses to purchase a bike from Cannondale.
OT: It seems nowadays any thread referring to high-end bikes digresses into a camera thread. I wonder if the converse is true on cameraforums.net...
OT: It seems nowadays any thread referring to high-end bikes digresses into a camera thread. I wonder if the converse is true on cameraforums.net...
07-14-09, 08:48 PM
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It was a safety thing back in the day, when people were drilling holes in stuff to make it lighter and what not.
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07-14-09, 08:49 PM
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UMD, I honestly like most of your comments and think you have a lot of good knowledge to share on a variety of topics. But on this one, we don't see eye to eye.
Here's the big difference, and the essential point I'm making. Cannondale is not making those bikes for other professional riders. They are making those bikes (and you can purchase an exact copy of what is being ridden in the Tour) for non-professional cyclists who pay big $$ for what is essentially a cheat. Think of it as a golfer with fifteen clubs in his bag or a swimmer with fins.
Here's the big difference, and the essential point I'm making. Cannondale is not making those bikes for other professional riders. They are making those bikes (and you can purchase an exact copy of what is being ridden in the Tour) for non-professional cyclists who pay big $$ for what is essentially a cheat. Think of it as a golfer with fifteen clubs in his bag or a swimmer with fins.
Is someone who rides a 15lb bike against a guy with a 19lb bike cheating? Both are UCI legal...
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07-14-09, 08:56 PM
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07-14-09, 09:09 PM
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if the guys goes by you on a 12lbs bike that cost 8000 buck.I would say that is fitting!!he better go flyin by you .if you go flyin by him on a 20 lbs bike you can laugh your ass off!!!
07-14-09, 09:15 PM
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07-14-09, 09:19 PM
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I generally prefer to control aperture for depth of field, but I will do shutter if I want to control motion, like for panning. For consistent lighting I will meter a gray card and shoot in manual. The 1 doesn't have any of the special picture modes of course.
07-14-09, 09:44 PM
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It isn't cheating if you aren't competing in anything.
If people like riding around on a 12 pound bike, then shouldn't that be their choice?
Anyway, a lot (if not most) of this is marketing hype designed to sell products to people who don't necessarily understand the subtleties of geometry, weight distribution, or for that matter anatomy in the choice of a bike. They can understand weight because its a very obvious metric. Bike A weighs a pound less than Bike B so Bike A must be better.
It works the same way in so many other consumer marketing fields, like digital cameras where more megapixels are supposed to be the be-all and end-all, or stereo equipment where more wattage is always better, or cars where more horsepower is definitely a must, or computer CPUs where more Mhz are always faster, and on and on.
If people like riding around on a 12 pound bike, then shouldn't that be their choice?
Anyway, a lot (if not most) of this is marketing hype designed to sell products to people who don't necessarily understand the subtleties of geometry, weight distribution, or for that matter anatomy in the choice of a bike. They can understand weight because its a very obvious metric. Bike A weighs a pound less than Bike B so Bike A must be better.
It works the same way in so many other consumer marketing fields, like digital cameras where more megapixels are supposed to be the be-all and end-all, or stereo equipment where more wattage is always better, or cars where more horsepower is definitely a must, or computer CPUs where more Mhz are always faster, and on and on.
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The Theater of the Absurd now includes road bikes; the destructive extent of bikeorexia has finally been revealed.
Over the weekend, during Tour coverage, Versus had a short piece on the Liquigas Cannondales. In the segment a Cannondale product manager revealed that their bikes weigh only twelve pounds. He then proudly raised his hand to display a three inch piece of metal pipe that had to be added to the bikes in order for them to comply with UCI regulations.
What a ridiculous demonstration that was. My mind began to spin with wonder.
Do people who buy those bikes look at the dead weight as rare earth, costing hundreds of dollars an ounce?
Do they wonder how much safety was given up to have a piece of scrap metal strapped to their bike in order to make it racing legal?
If I'm passed on a climb by a Cannondale rider should I demand that he display his silly axillary pipe or just assume he's cheating?
Over the weekend, during Tour coverage, Versus had a short piece on the Liquigas Cannondales. In the segment a Cannondale product manager revealed that their bikes weigh only twelve pounds. He then proudly raised his hand to display a three inch piece of metal pipe that had to be added to the bikes in order for them to comply with UCI regulations.
What a ridiculous demonstration that was. My mind began to spin with wonder.
Do people who buy those bikes look at the dead weight as rare earth, costing hundreds of dollars an ounce?
Do they wonder how much safety was given up to have a piece of scrap metal strapped to their bike in order to make it racing legal?
If I'm passed on a climb by a Cannondale rider should I demand that he display his silly axillary pipe or just assume he's cheating?
the ballast is added to conform to UCI racing regulations.
what makes you think they add ballast to bikes they sell to consumers?
