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The Weak Link 09-21-09 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Reynolds (Post 9714406)
Like I said, book throwing isn't my sport.

You misunderstand, my friend. I don't expect a bird to start thumbing through the Audobon Society's Guide to North Amercian Birds just because I spotted a ruby-throated hummingbird in my backyard.

Where do the nets find these people?

DScott 09-21-09 09:59 AM

I'm still waiting for an example of a busy (hopefully bike-related) internet forum where women don't feel inhibited about posting like they seem to feel here... :innocent:

Tulex 09-21-09 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Reynolds (Post 9714314)
Just the opposite, I don't question the human part but the "nature" part. I don't believe there's something inherent to being human, except for our great ability to adapt - that is, not having an unchangeable "nature".

I don't think adapting to our environment/social norms equates to social norms becoming instinctual in nature.

Repressing sexual urges is not natural, it's extremely unnatural. The fact that society has taught us to do so speaks more to the fact that we have adapted to social expectations, not that we have become less sexually driven.

DrPete 09-21-09 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Tulex (Post 9714462)
I don't think adapting to our environment/social norms equates to social norms becoming instinctual in nature.

Repressing sexual urges is not natural, it's extremely unnatural. The fact that society has taught us to do so speaks more to the fact that we have adapted to social expectations, not that we have become less sexually driven.

One of the many responsibilities of that whole "higher animal" gig. Thankfully so for the sake of the women I love in my life.

Reynolds 09-21-09 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by The Weak Link (Post 9714441)

Where do the nets find these people?

You joined BF in 2006. By now you should have realized that there are people much weirder than me here.

The Weak Link 09-21-09 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Reynolds (Post 9714512)
You joined BF in 2006. By now you should have realized that there are people much weirder than me here.

You played that quite well. You never know, some day we might become BFF.

Tulex 09-21-09 10:27 AM

Ok, so here's the bottom line as I see it.

If you are a woman, post.
If you don't like how you are treated, call the person on it.
If you feel the person crossed the line, report them.
This is a competitive forum, so HTFU.

Repeat.

Grumpy McTrumpy 09-21-09 10:31 AM

agreed.
no white knights needed

DScott 09-21-09 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Tulex (Post 9714661)
Ok, so here's the bottom line as I see it.

If you are a woman, post.
If you don't like how you are treated, call the person on it.
If you feel the person crossed the line, report them.
This is a competitive forum, so HTFU.

Repeat.


So, really, you're saying the internet is a "guy thing"?

Flatballer 09-21-09 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Tulex (Post 9714661)
Ok, so here's the bottom line as I see it.

Post.
If you don't like how you are treated, call the person on it.
If you feel the person crossed the line, report them.
This is a competitive forum, so HTFU.

Repeat.

Fixed for gender neutrality.

Sinn 09-21-09 10:36 AM

After looking in the mirror and nodding approvingly at my unshaven face, all I have to say is:

Trolling!

Tulex 09-21-09 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Flatballer (Post 9714724)
Fixed for gender neutrality.

I was just trying to stay true to the OP. ;)

Tulex 09-21-09 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by DScott (Post 9714709)
So, really, you're saying the internet is a "guy thing"?

http://www.ignitesocialmedia.com/int...e-gender-race/

hurley.girl 09-21-09 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by trigger (Post 9713632)
Exactly. How few pics of female cyclists do we see in ride report threads vs pics of guys. Wonder why?

And that's why I haven't posted a pic of me "suffering in a race" anywhere but in the women's forum.

well..unless you count my avatar but you can't really see me in it. ;)

hurley.girl 09-21-09 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by DScott (Post 9714459)
I'm still waiting for an example of a busy (hopefully bike-related) internet forum where women don't feel inhibited about posting like they seem to feel here... :innocent:

I believe Team Estrogen might qualify, but it might not be "busy enough" for you.

BarracksSi 09-21-09 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by SendMoreChris (Post 9712664)
2) As far as the vain nature of sport celebrities, this works both ways...
Micheal Phelps: More attractive than I am
Kobe Bryant: More attractive than I am
Lance Armstrong: More attractive than I am
Peyton Manning: More attractive than I am
BarracksSi: Isn't, see...

Damn right -- you're hot. :love:

Wait.. which one are you? :p

DScott 09-21-09 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by hurley.girl (Post 9715134)
I believe Team Estrogen might qualify, but it might not be "busy enough" for you.

Thanks for that. I just spent some time reading over there, and it seems like a nice enough place. But, there were only 11 threads in the General Discussion sub-forum that had replies with today's date on them. That's about 30 seconds worth of posting here. Maybe I just have ADD...

Look at the difference between TE and BF:

Women's Cycling Discussion Forums Statistics
Threads: 30,477, Posts: 426,206, Members: 6,609, Active Members: 1,073

Bike Forums Statistics
Threads: 538,568, Posts: 9,178,624, Members: 165,312, Active Members: 18,365




Honestly, my posts here are more than a bit tongue-in-cheek. I judge what people say based on the quality of their posts, not on who is posting it. I'm not gender-blind by any means, but more gender-indifferent. FWIW, I like smart, interesting women, and have always managed to surround myself with quite a few of them. Being attractive is a bonus, not a prerequisite.

Flatballer 09-21-09 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by hurley.girl (Post 9715126)
And that's why I haven't posted a pic of me "suffering in a race" anywhere but in the women's forum.

well..unless you count my avatar but you can't really see me in it. ;)

You won't get any cat calls in the Racing sub forum. There are plenty of posts of women in the suffering thread, and all that gets commented on is their suffering face, bike, kit, and how the race went.

jeanHTX 09-21-09 01:40 PM

i wonder how many of the bike forums thread vs team estrogen's threads are of relevant topics (as in, not useless). TE also has a higher percentage of active members than BF.

cshell 09-21-09 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by jeanatx (Post 9715894)
i wonder how many of the bike forums thread vs team estrogen's threads are of relevant topics (as in, not useless). TE also has a higher percentage of active members than BF.

where are these said "Team Estrogen" threads?

hurley.girl 09-21-09 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Flatballer (Post 9715766)
You won't get any cat calls in the Racing sub forum. There are plenty of posts of women in the suffering thread, and all that gets commented on is their suffering face, bike, kit, and how the race went.

It's true that that thread is gender-benign, but the first woman that posted got a response along the lines of "you look good on a bike, unlike most women". And there is a series of posts about the Rock Racing "women racers" which was mostly just funny.

There really are at most handful of pics from women in there. If I posted there, I'd like to be called out on my suffering face, bike position, etc, not my "looks".

jeanHTX 09-21-09 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by cshell (Post 9715915)
where are these said "Team Estrogen" threads?

This

botto 09-21-09 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by cshell (Post 9715915)
where are these said "Team Estrogen" threads?

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/

cshell 09-21-09 01:49 PM

<--- naive


Originally Posted by jeanatx (Post 9715937)


Originally Posted by botto (Post 9715939)


I had no clue.

cshell 09-21-09 01:51 PM

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