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Clipless good. Falling bad.

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Old 09-27-09 | 12:12 AM
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I unclip like I mount. By habit, I always have my left foot at 6 o'clock and unclip with my right. In general, if I was going to tip over, I would try to fall to the right away from traffic. I leave my left clipped in. My clips have 2 different angles of release depending on how they're installed.
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Old 09-27-09 | 12:50 AM
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You have such a welcoming and supportive attitude. I guess it must make you feel good about yourself.
Don't know about the US\Canada but here in Oz we say "hit the nail on the head" with that comment.
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Old 10-09-09 | 12:16 PM
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don't know about the us\canada but here in oz we say "hit the nail on the head" with that comment.
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Old 10-09-09 | 12:28 PM
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Old 10-09-09 | 01:43 PM
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every rider i know, i don't know umd, but i know some pretty good riders, has fallen over at least once while trying to unclip...it doesn't usually happen the first time because you are thinking about it so hard...but after a few stops when you think you got it, it zaps you...my sister-in-law practiced, practiced, practiced on the trainer & still fell on her 2nd outing with her clips...
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Old 10-09-09 | 01:47 PM
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I've never fallen trying to unclip with clipless. Twist and out. Not really rocket surgery. Back in the 80's I busted a few times with toe clips/straps that were wrenched down real tight.
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Old 10-09-09 | 01:59 PM
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Seriously, what evidence do you have to support that this happens to most cyclists? I'll give you that it's somewhat common and I don't believe it's anything to be ashamed about, but why do you feel that you need to project that it happens to everyone, nearly everyone (99% as you said), or most people. Do you have to feel that it happens to nearly everyone to be ok with having fallen?

So I repeat, I don't understand what is so difficult about unclipping when you start to fall over.

Edit: From what I've read of this happening, it seems that it may be somewhat linked to the type of pedal used, which is why I asked.
I have done this, and yes, it's nothing of which to be ashamed. Also, I've shared my story of falling while trying to clip out, and every cyclist I know has said it's happened to them. It was on a large group ride of about 30 riders when I shared the story, so we took a poll and everyone who rode clipless had crashed at least once (some twice) when learning how to unclip.

There's my evidence, and I think you're being a little weird about challenging a guy who made a pretty innocuous statement. "Most" is not "all", and I have no idea why your knickers are in such a twist about this.

So add me to your 'hate' post next time.
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Old 10-09-09 | 02:27 PM
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Not because I couldn't get my foot out.
i agree. i have never fallen cause i couldn't get my foot out. i fell 2 times, once while turning really slowly i learned what toe overlap was.the second happened on the first day i got my bike, i rode too close to the side of the road, slipped into the grass and instantly fell.

i have lost my balance a few times but i always seem to get my foot out in time to catch myself. "knock on wood"
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Old 10-09-09 | 02:27 PM
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For what its worth I've never fallen off while using clipless pedals.

This makes me better than all of you.


Edit: Although I did nearly fall several times, but managed to clip out just in time.
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Old 10-09-09 | 02:28 PM
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i have seen a few people fall over because they couldnt get their foot out. it was because they panicked and pulled up or pushed down on their foot instead of quickly kicking out.
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Old 10-09-09 | 02:31 PM
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I'm not challenging a guy, I'm challenging Machka. I guess it depends on who you ride with because most people I know have not fallen because they forgot they were clipped in or couldn't get their foot out in time. I don't think I'm special, I think the "fallers" have overblown this issue. I don't think falling is something to be ashamed of, I just don't think it happens to all, or even most people. But I would agree with "many"

anyway, as I keep saying, I think the pedals may have something to do with it. Some pedal designs are just naturally easier to unclip from.

And for all y'all that fell when you first started riding with clipless, how log has it been since you last fell? If someone managed to get through their first week without falling, do you think that they would sufficiently internalize the process so that falling was not likely to happen again?

And for everyone who thinks it's bs that I haven't fallen, I've been able to trackstand since before I started using clipless, so when I come to a stop there isn't a big panic to get my foot down.

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Old 10-09-09 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TomInFLA
So add me to your 'hate' post next time.
Seriously, where is the 'hate' in my post?
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Old 10-09-09 | 02:38 PM
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And for all y'all that fell when you first started riding with clipless, how log has it been since you last fell? If someone managed together through their first week without falling, do you think that they would sufficiently internalize the process so that falling was not likely to happen again?

And for everyone who thinks it's bs that I haven't fallen, I've been able to trackstanding since before I started using clipless, so when I come to a stop there isn't a big panic to get my foot down.
i never understood this. who waits till the very last second to unclip anyway? there are a few seconds for you to make up your mind which foot your going to take out, etc.
my falls both happened in the first 3 weeks.

my last "almost fall" was last weekend. i blew up really bad and when i got to the top my leg wouldn't listen, i panicked for a second but got it out just in time. before that, maybe 3 months since the last "close call"
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Old 10-09-09 | 04:56 PM
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I've fallen with my pedals twice so far in the 3 months that I've been into this sport. Trust me, it'll happen, and isn't really that bad.

My only issue now is clipping back in. I usually unclip both feet before I start because I am not very comfortable with one foot still clipped in. For me I can't seem to clip in as fast as most people, I always end up taking off with one foot clipped in (my right foot, i'm left handed if that means anything), and my left foot always takes one or two rotations before it clicks in.
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Old 10-10-09 | 05:51 AM
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who waits till the very last second to unclip anyway?
Those who forget they're clipped in.
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Old 10-10-09 | 06:29 AM
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I've fallen once while clipped in on my road bike. End of the ride, unclipped my left foot and didnt watch where my wheel was going, so the bike tilted towards the right and I fell down. This was with SPD-SLs. This was about 2 months after I had gone clipless.

Late August, on a downhill run, I hit a sandy patch that I wasnt expecting, my front wheel got stuck and twisted to the side, launching me off the bike. Without thinking, i managed to get both feet unclipped, clear the handlebars and landed on my feet. Even the Russian judge would have given me a 10 for that. This was with Speedplay Frogs.

I agree with UMD's broader picture comment that really, it isnt that hard to ride clipless. But most clipless riders I have spoken to have fallen atleast once. I dont think I personally know anyone who has -never- fallen, actually.

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Old 10-10-09 | 07:13 AM
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The guy who ridicules you for this is the one who did it and trashed his Madone frame. We've all done it. It looks stupid, but so do many things in this life. Ya dust yerself off and keep goin'!
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Old 10-10-09 | 07:33 AM
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Oh, except for umd who is .......... special.
Hmm. I gues I am "special" as well as it has never happened to me.

When I bought my first clipless pedals 15 years ago, the lbs owner took me outside and gave me a 30 second demonstration. "Down and out is all you have to know" he says. "Down" places your weight and center of gravity low and to that side. "Out" with your heel unclips. Easy. I thought about it for two rides and it has been second nature since.

So, it doesn't happen to everyone.
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Old 10-10-09 | 07:54 AM
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I have fallen many times, but never because I forgot to unclip. That is just plain silly. How can you forget you are clipped in under normal riding conditions? It is like "I ran into the guy behind me because I forgot the new bike does not have safety brakes."
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Old 10-10-09 | 08:45 AM
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I've finished a ride so exhausted before, I couldn't even remember my name, much less whether my feet are attached to pedals or not.

Fall.
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Old 10-10-09 | 11:23 AM
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The most common cause of falls with clipless for me is simply being too bloody tired. Either I'll be zoned out and forget to unclip until it's too late or my ragged arse doesn't have the oomph to snap my heel out. Never happens on fun rides, but on commutes it does happen sometimes.
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Old 10-10-09 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cshell
I've finished a ride so exhausted before, I couldn't even remember my name, much less whether my feet are attached to pedals or not.
I was so spent after one of the races I won, that I nearly collapsed... but I still remembered to unclip.
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Old 10-10-09 | 04:39 PM
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It takes practice to get used to clipless riding. Practice on grass until the habit of twisting your heels outward become second nature. For newbies, multi-release clipless cleats are easier to practice with than single-release cleats.
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Old 10-10-09 | 04:41 PM
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Only dummies leave the pedal tension at the default setting. Loosen the tension until you can clip in and out easily.
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Old 10-11-09 | 02:46 PM
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3 years clipless and I've not hit the ground yet, I figure it's only a matter time though.
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