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Sonoma76 09-28-09 10:00 AM

To hell with the super bikers
 
Ten of them were racing up and down our beautiful canyon road this weekend, using the entire road and causing my riding partner and I to pull off to the side of the road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAJcqc_JkYo

At one point, we could hear them approaching so we pulled over. They came within two feet of us (on the opposite side of the street) as they rounded the corner at 70 mph +.

I'll admit we fantasized about throwing rocks at them, setting up a trip line or piano wire, or other traps. Our mobiles had no signal so we couldn't call the cops.

They passed us at least three times (we knew ahead of time because they had a scout riding ahead) and really disrupted our ride.

And oh yeah- a cyclist was killed on this road just two months ago by a drunk driver.

silversx80 09-28-09 10:04 AM

... and?

Sonoma76 09-28-09 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by silversx80 (Post 9758118)
... and?

and what? I need a reason to ***** about motorcyclists?

rizz 09-28-09 10:06 AM

Sounds to me like cyclists need to get off that road. Darn hippies are always getting in the way.

jwible 09-28-09 10:06 AM

Squids.

bdcheung 09-28-09 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by silversx80 (Post 9758118)
... and?

seriously?

Jynx 09-28-09 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by jwible (Post 9758136)
Squids.

+1.

The squids will probably end up dead with the way they drive. Don't worry.

silversx80 09-28-09 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Sonoma76 (Post 9758124)
and what? I need a reason to ***** about motorcyclists?

You view it as your road, they view it as their road. Both sides feel they have the reason to p!ss and moan.


Originally Posted by bdcheung (Post 9758139)
seriously?

Yes... well, mostly to just bust balls.

silversx80 09-28-09 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Jynx (Post 9758152)
The squids will probably end up dead with the way they drive. Don't worry.

There was a farmer who had a dog and BINGO was his name-o.



BTW, you ride a motorcycle, not drive it :p

Jynx 09-28-09 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by silversx80 (Post 9758174)
There was a farmer who had a dog and BINGO was his name-o.



BTW, you ride a motorcycle, not drive it :p

lol I had a brain fart. When I read it I said that doesn't really sound right but I posted anyway.

Sonoma76 09-28-09 10:18 AM


You view it as your road, they view it as their road. Both sides feel they have the reason to p!ss and moan.
There's a difference between cycling legally on a road and taking up the entire roadway and illegally racing on it for a couple of hours.

Thought they covered that in Cycling 101

The worst part was that we flagged down a USFS police woman and she ignored us and kept driving.

AEO 09-28-09 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by silversx80 (Post 9758169)
You view it as your road

incorrect


Originally Posted by silversx80 (Post 9758169)
they view it as their road.

correct


Originally Posted by silversx80 (Post 9758169)
Both sides feel they have the reason to p!ss and moan.

I'd piss and moan even if I wasn't on a bike.
they build race tracks for a reason.

rizz 09-28-09 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by AEO (Post 9758200)
I'd piss and moan even if I wasn't on a bike.
they build race tracks for a reason.

That's a good point. Why aren't these cyclists at a Velodrome?

bdcheung 09-28-09 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by rizz (Post 9758234)
That's a good point. Why aren't these cyclists at a Velodrome?

a myopic response.

WalksOn2Wheels 09-28-09 10:28 AM

Without getting into it, I'm both a motorcyclist and a cyclist. Share the road works both ways and unfortunately, those guys are asses. That is, there are ways to enjoy a nice road like that and check up when you see a cyclist or two so as to not buzz them, etc.

My best advice is to ride early morning to avoid any peak traffic. Unfortunately, sometimes this is when the people in fast cars and fast motorcycles like to do their acts of stupidity.

When I did go on "fast" rides with my motorcycle buddies, we usually did it at 2 a.m. No cyclists out and certainly not many cars.

silversx80 09-28-09 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Sonoma76 (Post 9758196)
There's a difference between cycling legally on a road and taking up the entire roadway and illegally racing on it for a couple of hours.

Thought they covered that in Cycling 101

The worst part was that we flagged down a USFS police woman and she ignored us and kept driving.

I'm not saying there isn't, but you're in no position to enforce the law. Chances are they weren't racing.

They will get what they deserve, however, and it isn't like you've never broken the speed limit, ran a red light or stop and generally made a decision on the road which could have caused an usafe situation for other users of the road.

I don't condone their actions, FTR.

botto 09-28-09 10:29 AM

had a similar experience with motorcycle morons thinking they owned the entire road, while i was descending the stelvio.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...stel_bonus.jpg

robncircus 09-28-09 10:31 AM

This is typical of most canyon roads in Southern California on the weekends. I try to choose roads that are a little too technical for the motorcyclists (i.e. Topanga) but sometimes I venture into motorcycle heaven (i.e. Rock Store). That said, when I see them at rest point I aiways stop and say hi and the majority of them are really nice people enjoying the roads like we do.

Rob

chipcom 09-28-09 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by botto (Post 9758269)
had a similar experience with motorcycle morons thinking they owned the entire road, while i was descending the stelvio.

and...?

silversx80 09-28-09 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by AEO (Post 9758200)
incorrect


Originally Posted by Sonoma76 (Post 9758100)
Ten of them were racing up and down our beautiful canyon road this weekend, using the entire road and causing my riding partner and I to pull off to the side of the road.


It seems an implied sense of ownership in this statement.




Originally Posted by AEO (Post 9758200)
I'd piss and moan even if I wasn't on a bike.
they build race tracks for a reason.

You want them off the road, they want you off the road. Hell, it was designed for cars anyway, so unless you have 4 wheels that can maintain the speed limit, go home.

If they keep riding like that, Johnny Law, or Charles Darwin will get them.

AEO 09-28-09 10:34 AM

if you're caught racing or stunting on public roads here it's up to $10,000 fine, minimum $2000, immediate suspension of your license for 7 days, immediate 7 day impound of your car.

you go around a blind corner across the line at 60mph and plow into a family of tourists. Yeah, that's wonderful Darwinism at work there.

silversx80 09-28-09 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by robncircus (Post 9758282)
This is typical of most canyon roads in Southern California on the weekends. I try to choose roads that are a little too technical for the motorcyclists (i.e. Topanga) but sometimes I venture into motorcycle heaven (i.e. Rock Store). That said, when I see them at rest point I aiways stop and say hi and the majority of them are really nice people enjoying the roads like we do.

Rob

Perfect post.


They enjoy the road in their way, we in ours. Both can be seen as a danger to other traffic.

botto 09-28-09 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by silversx80 (Post 9758311)
Perfect post.


They enjoy the road in their way, we in ours. Both can be seen as a danger to other traffic.


apparently you're either unwilling, or incapable , of understanding a very simple point.

a series of motorcycles ramping it up to 70+ MPH on back roads is both dangerous, and idiotic. duh.

it's the equivalent of a balls to the wall group ride on a MUP, but a hell of a lot more dangerous.

got it? good.

ok, bye.

rizz 09-28-09 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by bdcheung (Post 9758243)
a myopic response.

Hardly. The argument goes both ways.

Heck, if we watch the video the ``super bikes'' (which most of them likely are not) are going rather slow and only encroach on the yellow line so as to give more distance to some non-disabled cyclists that have decided to take a holiday on the shoulder and they did it in a poor spot on a technical section of road.

plodderslusk 09-28-09 10:43 AM

I have never encountered bike riders in a group like that in Norway. Really scary! The bikers here have a regular café stop on a road used by a lot of bicyclists on the weekends. There might be hundreds of bikers at the stop sometimes. I have never seen anything but polite and friendly driving from them around us cyclists. The US are usually 10-15 years ahead of us, hope this trend never comes here.


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