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Old 09-28-09 | 10:00 AM
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To hell with the super bikers

Ten of them were racing up and down our beautiful canyon road this weekend, using the entire road and causing my riding partner and I to pull off to the side of the road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAJcqc_JkYo

At one point, we could hear them approaching so we pulled over. They came within two feet of us (on the opposite side of the street) as they rounded the corner at 70 mph +.

I'll admit we fantasized about throwing rocks at them, setting up a trip line or piano wire, or other traps. Our mobiles had no signal so we couldn't call the cops.

They passed us at least three times (we knew ahead of time because they had a scout riding ahead) and really disrupted our ride.

And oh yeah- a cyclist was killed on this road just two months ago by a drunk driver.
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... and?
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Old 09-28-09 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by silversx80
... and?
and what? I need a reason to ***** about motorcyclists?
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Old 09-28-09 | 10:06 AM
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Sounds to me like cyclists need to get off that road. Darn hippies are always getting in the way.
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Squids.
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Originally Posted by silversx80
... and?
seriously?
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Squids.
+1.

The squids will probably end up dead with the way they drive. Don't worry.
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and what? I need a reason to ***** about motorcyclists?
You view it as your road, they view it as their road. Both sides feel they have the reason to p!ss and moan.

Originally Posted by bdcheung
seriously?
Yes... well, mostly to just bust balls.
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Old 09-28-09 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jynx
The squids will probably end up dead with the way they drive. Don't worry.
There was a farmer who had a dog and BINGO was his name-o.



BTW, you ride a motorcycle, not drive it
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Originally Posted by silversx80
There was a farmer who had a dog and BINGO was his name-o.



BTW, you ride a motorcycle, not drive it
lol I had a brain fart. When I read it I said that doesn't really sound right but I posted anyway.
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You view it as your road, they view it as their road. Both sides feel they have the reason to p!ss and moan.
There's a difference between cycling legally on a road and taking up the entire roadway and illegally racing on it for a couple of hours.

Thought they covered that in Cycling 101

The worst part was that we flagged down a USFS police woman and she ignored us and kept driving.
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Old 09-28-09 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by silversx80
You view it as your road
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Originally Posted by silversx80
they view it as their road.
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Both sides feel they have the reason to p!ss and moan.
I'd piss and moan even if I wasn't on a bike.
they build race tracks for a reason.
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Old 09-28-09 | 10:24 AM
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I'd piss and moan even if I wasn't on a bike.
they build race tracks for a reason.
That's a good point. Why aren't these cyclists at a Velodrome?
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That's a good point. Why aren't these cyclists at a Velodrome?
a myopic response.
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Without getting into it, I'm both a motorcyclist and a cyclist. Share the road works both ways and unfortunately, those guys are asses. That is, there are ways to enjoy a nice road like that and check up when you see a cyclist or two so as to not buzz them, etc.

My best advice is to ride early morning to avoid any peak traffic. Unfortunately, sometimes this is when the people in fast cars and fast motorcycles like to do their acts of stupidity.

When I did go on "fast" rides with my motorcycle buddies, we usually did it at 2 a.m. No cyclists out and certainly not many cars.
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Old 09-28-09 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonoma76
There's a difference between cycling legally on a road and taking up the entire roadway and illegally racing on it for a couple of hours.

Thought they covered that in Cycling 101

The worst part was that we flagged down a USFS police woman and she ignored us and kept driving.
I'm not saying there isn't, but you're in no position to enforce the law. Chances are they weren't racing.

They will get what they deserve, however, and it isn't like you've never broken the speed limit, ran a red light or stop and generally made a decision on the road which could have caused an usafe situation for other users of the road.

I don't condone their actions, FTR.
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had a similar experience with motorcycle morons thinking they owned the entire road, while i was descending the stelvio.

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Old 09-28-09 | 10:31 AM
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This is typical of most canyon roads in Southern California on the weekends. I try to choose roads that are a little too technical for the motorcyclists (i.e. Topanga) but sometimes I venture into motorcycle heaven (i.e. Rock Store). That said, when I see them at rest point I aiways stop and say hi and the majority of them are really nice people enjoying the roads like we do.

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Originally Posted by botto
had a similar experience with motorcycle morons thinking they owned the entire road, while i was descending the stelvio.
and...?
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Originally Posted by AEO
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Originally Posted by Sonoma76
Ten of them were racing up and down our beautiful canyon road this weekend, using the entire road and causing my riding partner and I to pull off to the side of the road.

It seems an implied sense of ownership in this statement.



Originally Posted by AEO
I'd piss and moan even if I wasn't on a bike.
they build race tracks for a reason.
You want them off the road, they want you off the road. Hell, it was designed for cars anyway, so unless you have 4 wheels that can maintain the speed limit, go home.

If they keep riding like that, Johnny Law, or Charles Darwin will get them.
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if you're caught racing or stunting on public roads here it's up to $10,000 fine, minimum $2000, immediate suspension of your license for 7 days, immediate 7 day impound of your car.

you go around a blind corner across the line at 60mph and plow into a family of tourists. Yeah, that's wonderful Darwinism at work there.
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Originally Posted by robncircus
This is typical of most canyon roads in Southern California on the weekends. I try to choose roads that are a little too technical for the motorcyclists (i.e. Topanga) but sometimes I venture into motorcycle heaven (i.e. Rock Store). That said, when I see them at rest point I aiways stop and say hi and the majority of them are really nice people enjoying the roads like we do.

Rob
Perfect post.


They enjoy the road in their way, we in ours. Both can be seen as a danger to other traffic.
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Originally Posted by silversx80
Perfect post.


They enjoy the road in their way, we in ours. Both can be seen as a danger to other traffic.

apparently you're either unwilling, or incapable , of understanding a very simple point.

a series of motorcycles ramping it up to 70+ MPH on back roads is both dangerous, and idiotic. duh.

it's the equivalent of a balls to the wall group ride on a MUP, but a hell of a lot more dangerous.

got it? good.

ok, bye.

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Old 09-28-09 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
a myopic response.
Hardly. The argument goes both ways.

Heck, if we watch the video the ``super bikes'' (which most of them likely are not) are going rather slow and only encroach on the yellow line so as to give more distance to some non-disabled cyclists that have decided to take a holiday on the shoulder and they did it in a poor spot on a technical section of road.
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Old 09-28-09 | 10:43 AM
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I have never encountered bike riders in a group like that in Norway. Really scary! The bikers here have a regular café stop on a road used by a lot of bicyclists on the weekends. There might be hundreds of bikers at the stop sometimes. I have never seen anything but polite and friendly driving from them around us cyclists. The US are usually 10-15 years ahead of us, hope this trend never comes here.
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