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Clipless fall at zero mph - Actually injured ?

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Old 11-01-09, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by umd
How is your complaining about my complaining any different than my complaining about pharding's post? I saw something stupid, I pointed it out. Moved on. Thanks.
Because your "complaint" was rude, unnecessary, and probably a lame attempt to be funny.

...unless you sincerely think what you said was constructive, in which case you're also pretty stupid.
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I fell two weeks (three?) ago at a red light.....barely left the apt complex!!!! I was ticked at myself for missing the curb.

right forearm was bruised and sore, some scraps on my hand (nothing bad, few layers of skin missing, that is better now). The worst part was I hit my head and damaged my helmet causing slight concussion.....though my attitude around the house has improved so the wife is enjoying me post fall. So some falls can be good?
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I fell squarely on the edge of my femur by my hip. It was painful to bare weight on the leg, but I managed to ride home taking it easy.
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sounds OK, but still I cringed when you said that.
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Originally Posted by scr660
Because your "complaint" was rude, unnecessary, and probably a lame attempt to be funny.

...unless you sincerely think what you said was constructive, in which case you're also pretty stupid.
Wasn't trying to be funny. Only morons think that "everbody falls".
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Originally Posted by umd
Wasn't trying to be funny. Only morons think that "everbody falls".
however everybody hurts
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Originally Posted by umd
I saw something stupid, I pointed it out. .
Me too
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You've stumbled upon umd's personal bugbear. He has a sixth sense drawing him to threads about falling with clipless pedals. He makes the same point in every thread, but never seems to tire of beating his head against the wall. He says he's moved on, but he never actually does.

Peruse some of the posts in these search results (not all apply, but many do):

https://www.bikeforums.net/search.php...=6789699&pp=25

As soon as I clicked on this thread I laughed because I knew how the rest would go. It's like a finely tuned, if repetitive and tiresome, machine. If you're ever on vacation, umd, I could probably fill in for you. I think I've got it down. Or I can copy and paste from any number of older threads if you want to keep it 100% genuine.

(speaking as one who never falls in his clipless pedals, and can come to a complete stop with no warning and not fall - and even enjoys it - as did the kid who I did not run over today when he cut in front of me without looking)
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I fell once on my first road bike and once when I got them for my mountain bike. Didn't get hurt as bad as you, but hurt none-the-less. Mountain biking was worse as I fell on some roots and was a good 10 miles from the car. Throught I broke my arm, but turned out I was just a wimp. It happens.. You'll probably not do it again though.
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Originally Posted by kgabike
You've stumbled upon umd's personal bugbear. He has a sixth sense drawing him to threads about falling with clipless pedals. He makes the same point in every thread, but never seems to tire of beating his head against the wall. He says he's moved on, but he never actually does.

Peruse some of the posts in these search results (not all apply, but many do):

https://www.bikeforums.net/search.php...=6789699&pp=25

As soon as I clicked on this thread I laughed because I knew how the rest would go. It's like a finely tuned, if repetitive and tiresome, machine. If you're ever on vacation, umd, I could probably fill in for you. I think I've got it down. Or I can copy and paste from any number of older threads if you want to keep it 100% genuine.

(speaking as one who never falls in his clipless pedals, and can come to a complete stop with no warning and not fall - and even enjoys it - as did the kid who I did not run over today when he cut in front of me without looking)
lot of time on your hands, huh?
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Originally Posted by umd
lot of time on your hands, huh?
Uh, no. Unlike some, you'll notice I don't live on these forums. But it doesn't take much time to make this observation.

Although, I will add this, unreservedly. I thought the way you addressed pretty much the same situation on this thread (Clipless Pedals Query) was head and shoulders above your usual work on this topic. I came upon it only after writing my post above. Very well done, sir. Helpful and useful and completely lacking in snideness. I'm sure some people will benefit from it.

Originally Posted by umd
If you read most people's stories it's not that it's hard to unclip or that it takes a long time, it's that people usually forget that they are clipped in and don't even try. When they start to fall over they try to just lift their foot off which doesn't work. I think that for some pedals (such as speedplay), the unclipping motion is more natural and you are more likely to be able to unclip in a "panic" situation.
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Originally Posted by kgabike
Uh, no. Unlike some, you'll notice I don't live on these forums. But it doesn't take much time to make this observation.
If you think I especially target threads about clipless pedals you are sadly mistaken. I don't "live" on here but I post a lot and a very small fraction are on this subject. I find it amusing when people assert that it is a foregone conclusion, and generally dislike absolutism whatever the form.
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Agreeing with pdedes, although I suppose it would be better to call it "direct impact" instead of "pure impact". I injured my elbow (they thought it was broken for a couple days, then decided it wasn't) falling at about 8 mph when I stupidly took my hands off the bars on a cambered road. I've also crashed at about 25 mph and only got some road rash.
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Never put an arm out when falling on the bike. Never ever. Take it with a shoulder, side, or the handlebars, whatever. I automatically shoot out a leg if i can, otherwise just let yourself fall onto that shoulder.
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Originally Posted by grafik1979
Never put an arm out when falling on the bike. Never ever. Take it with a shoulder, side, or the handlebars, whatever. I automatically shoot out a leg if i can, otherwise just let yourself fall onto that shoulder.
OP said elbow, which in the case of a sideways roll, does not need an arm to be put out at all. Same for me, and at least in my case, I fell over so quickly that there was no time to make a decision anyway.
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Originally Posted by grafik1979
Never put an arm out when falling on the bike. Never ever. Take it with a shoulder, side, or the handlebars, whatever. I automatically shoot out a leg if i can, otherwise just let yourself fall onto that shoulder.
I broke my collarbone landing on my shoulder like that. Contrary to popular belief you do not need to stick your arm out to break something. Depending on the fall sticking your arm out could lessen the impact. See above about absolutism.
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Originally Posted by umd
See above about absolutism.
Nobody understands the point you are trying to make
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Originally Posted by umd
Wasn't trying to be funny. Only morons think that "everbody falls".
Didnt your poll establish that "most" people do?

Originally Posted by umd
generally dislike absolutism whatever the form.
Well, unless there are some forms of absolutisms that you can tolerate, even the above belief is an absolute one.

V. "everything in moderation, including moderation"

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The first and only time i've fallen from clip in pedals was the first time i clicked in, in my garage.
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i think we need a poll about clipless falls.
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Put my arm out once to break a fall (caused by dog in this case, not stupidity) and my little finger ended up pointing east and west. Rode to the doc that way and it was fun waving at people. Point is, there is no good way to fall is there?
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I don't recommend landing on your shoulder. My left shoulder has a grade-3 separation now from that. I landed on my right shoulder a couple of weeks ago, and had a fractured clavicle.

Hmm, maybe I should just stop "landing" on stuff...
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These posts are funny. Forget where to and where not to fall. I recommend not falling in the first place.
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A friend of mine fell at 0 speed and broke his wrist.
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Originally Posted by vkalia
Didnt your poll establish that "most" people do?
My poll established that there are a large number of people who haven't (I think it was running nearly 30% last I looked), and that there are various interpretations of "most".

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Well, unless there are some forms of absolutisms that you can tolerate, even the above belief is an absolute one.
I did say "generally"

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Put my arm out once to break a fall (caused by dog in this case, not stupidity) and my little finger ended up pointing east and west. Rode to the doc that way and it was fun waving at people. Point is, there is no good way to fall is there?
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These posts are funny. Forget where to and where not to fall. I recommend not falling in the first place.
The best way to fall is like urbanknight here... he landed on his feet in the far right of the picture



Unforunately I was right in front of him, his bike hit mine, and even though I had managed at first to avoid the guy who had gone down, urb's impact with me knocked me over. I got out of my pedals but was falling on top of the guy so had nowhere to put it. So it was a slow speed tipover of sorts, and you can see in the picture my arm sticking out slowing the fall.

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