View Poll Results: What is the bike brand most likely chosen by a typical Fred?
Bianchi
3
0.85%
Cannondale
20
5.63%
Cervelo
63
17.75%
Colnago
10
2.82%
Giant
15
4.23%
Felt
3
0.85%
Look
3
0.85%
Pinarello
9
2.54%
Specialized
14
3.94%
Trek
215
60.56%
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Bike brand most likely chosen by a typical Fred?
11-12-09, 02:04 PM
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I can't believe it still goes on. Who's worse, the Freds, the Poseurs, or them's that point the finger?
11-12-09, 02:24 PM
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I would imagine that the more local shops that carry a brand, the more freds buy them. Poseurs are more difficult to predict since they know to look for the 'elite' names stickered onto on those $350 Taiwan carbon frames that they make fun of from ebay but pay $2500 for after the stickers are on them.
I own two Treks (yikes) because they fit me and I got good deals on them. At this point the bikes are certainly better than my abilities, but it's nice to look at them after a ride. I've ridden close to 2000 miles this year and I still feel like a poseur when some kid on a big wheel comes zooming past me on an uphill :-) The worst is when some old lady on an electric wheelchair passes me and doesn't even shout "on your left"
I own two Treks (yikes) because they fit me and I got good deals on them. At this point the bikes are certainly better than my abilities, but it's nice to look at them after a ride. I've ridden close to 2000 miles this year and I still feel like a poseur when some kid on a big wheel comes zooming past me on an uphill :-) The worst is when some old lady on an electric wheelchair passes me and doesn't even shout "on your left"
11-12-09, 02:29 PM
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What are my goals? To minimize car use. To have a healthier lifestyle. To use my bike as a transportation tool. By my definition, a poser is anyone who carries their bike on their car in order to ride it. If you're so geeked up to ride your bike, try riding it to your rides. Be a man.
Where can I get a copy of the rule book?
11-12-09, 03:10 PM
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It's all relative...if I see anyone on a Scat or Fuji (not listed) I classify them as someone who is enjoying the sport while pursuing recreation and fitness.
If I see someone on a Colnago I classify them as someone who has more money than me.
If I see someone on a Pinarello I classify them as someone worth overtaking to prove that their $10,000 bike isn't 3 times better than my $3300 bike.
If I see someone on a Cannonadale, Cervelo, Giant, Felt, Specialized, or Trek I classify them as customers of an LBS who liked the sales person.
If I see someone on a Bianchi or Look I wonder where they bought their bikes and why.
None of the above are Freds. Fred is not determined by a bike brand. Fred is determined by the use of a Rapha woolen cap instead of a helmet.
If I see someone on a Colnago I classify them as someone who has more money than me.
If I see someone on a Pinarello I classify them as someone worth overtaking to prove that their $10,000 bike isn't 3 times better than my $3300 bike.
If I see someone on a Cannonadale, Cervelo, Giant, Felt, Specialized, or Trek I classify them as customers of an LBS who liked the sales person.
If I see someone on a Bianchi or Look I wonder where they bought their bikes and why.
None of the above are Freds. Fred is not determined by a bike brand. Fred is determined by the use of a Rapha woolen cap instead of a helmet.
11-12-09, 03:35 PM
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We need a pool to "Define Fred"!!
Wikiipedia has my definition, More money then skill
"Recently, particularly in the US, a Fred is more often somebody with higher quality and more expensive gear than his or her talent would warrant. For example, a Fred could be guy with little cycling experience who watches the highlights of a few Tour de France stages, then goes to a bike store and buys a Trek carbon fiber Madone in Team Discovery colors, along with Team Discovery shorts and jersey, and then rides it on a cycling path at 15 mph (25 km/h)."
Earn your Cervelo don't just buy it.
Wikiipedia has my definition, More money then skill
"Recently, particularly in the US, a Fred is more often somebody with higher quality and more expensive gear than his or her talent would warrant. For example, a Fred could be guy with little cycling experience who watches the highlights of a few Tour de France stages, then goes to a bike store and buys a Trek carbon fiber Madone in Team Discovery colors, along with Team Discovery shorts and jersey, and then rides it on a cycling path at 15 mph (25 km/h)."
Earn your Cervelo don't just buy it.
11-12-09, 03:37 PM
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We need a BF Glossary of Terms.
11-12-09, 03:42 PM
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11-12-09, 03:46 PM
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We need a pool to "Define Fred"!!
Wikiipedia has my definition, More money then skill
"Recently, particularly in the US, a Fred is more often somebody with higher quality and more expensive gear than his or her talent would warrant. For example, a Fred could be guy with little cycling experience who watches the highlights of a few Tour de France stages, then goes to a bike store and buys a Trek carbon fiber Madone in Team Discovery colors, along with Team Discovery shorts and jersey, and then rides it on a cycling path at 15 mph (25 km/h)."
Earn your Cervelo don't just buy it.
Wikiipedia has my definition, More money then skill
"Recently, particularly in the US, a Fred is more often somebody with higher quality and more expensive gear than his or her talent would warrant. For example, a Fred could be guy with little cycling experience who watches the highlights of a few Tour de France stages, then goes to a bike store and buys a Trek carbon fiber Madone in Team Discovery colors, along with Team Discovery shorts and jersey, and then rides it on a cycling path at 15 mph (25 km/h)."
Earn your Cervelo don't just buy it.
I guess I am a Fred too as one poster described how they start off on a front suspension hybrid before graduating to a road bike.
11-12-09, 03:53 PM
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hmmm with riders aging, we enter the realm of actual fredness vs. perceptual fredness. Turns out sometimes the old guy with the gut on a high end road bike just may have been a former Tour rider. Why not just ride and be done with it all?
11-12-09, 03:55 PM
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11-12-09, 03:59 PM
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I always assumed I am a Fred, now I have confirmation.
11-12-09, 04:05 PM
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11-12-09, 07:03 PM
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I'm thinking young fredsters (hipsters gone fred-like roadies) go Bianchi. Got a few at work.
11-12-09, 07:30 PM
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It's all relative...if I see anyone on a Scat or Fuji (not listed) I classify them as someone who is enjoying the sport while pursuing recreation and fitness.
If I see someone on a Colnago I classify them as someone who has more money than me.
If I see someone on a Pinarello I classify them as someone worth overtaking to prove that their $10,000 bike isn't 3 times better than my $3300 bike.
If I see someone on a Cannonadale, Cervelo, Giant, Felt, Specialized, or Trek I classify them as customers of an LBS who liked the sales person.
If I see someone on a Bianchi or Look I wonder where they bought their bikes and why.
None of the above are Freds. Fred is not determined by a bike brand. Fred is determined by the use of a Rapha woolen cap instead of a helmet.
If I see someone on a Colnago I classify them as someone who has more money than me.
If I see someone on a Pinarello I classify them as someone worth overtaking to prove that their $10,000 bike isn't 3 times better than my $3300 bike.
If I see someone on a Cannonadale, Cervelo, Giant, Felt, Specialized, or Trek I classify them as customers of an LBS who liked the sales person.
If I see someone on a Bianchi or Look I wonder where they bought their bikes and why.
None of the above are Freds. Fred is not determined by a bike brand. Fred is determined by the use of a Rapha woolen cap instead of a helmet.
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11-12-09, 07:50 PM
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