Frame Pump, Tools??
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Frame Pump, Tools??
I got my first flat the other day and had to get it repaired at my LBS. I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good frame pump and some tools I would need to change a tube on the road?
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I put a small pump in my jersey (specialized). Frame pumps tend to fall off. Save money by finding one on the road, where they fall off.
Then its: plastic tire levers, small patch kit. I have a small allen key set that doubles as a tire lever, all fits in a small pouch with the patch kit -made by Schwinn ~12 bucks. I add a few 4" zip ties for emergency repairs (light, strong, cheap and very versatile). Allen set has been very useful for long rides if something gets loose.
Then its: plastic tire levers, small patch kit. I have a small allen key set that doubles as a tire lever, all fits in a small pouch with the patch kit -made by Schwinn ~12 bucks. I add a few 4" zip ties for emergency repairs (light, strong, cheap and very versatile). Allen set has been very useful for long rides if something gets loose.
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I have the Topeak Road Morph and it's never fallen off for me.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4361
It's a great little pump that converts to a floor pump, too.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4361
It's a great little pump that converts to a floor pump, too.
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The point is that you need a pump or some other means of getting a bunch of air into your tube. I've mounted a small mini pump to the downtube bottle cage screws on both of my road bikes. I've never had one of these fall off. The cost for one is in the vicinity of $15. A Co2 kit (dispenser and cartridge) is another option. I've tried the co2 method and it works just fine, but I prefer a mini pump. Regards a "frame" pump, if your frame actually has a pump peg on the head tube, I doubt if you'd ever have the pump fall off. The frame pumps that are being used with frames that don't have pump pegs, might be the ones that are falling off?
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Originally Posted by bbp
hrmmm so is a frame pump a good idea? or is this another "double vs triple" debate?
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I use a Zefal HPX, which is probably the best frame pump, but only on long tours. It does obscure 2 waterbottle threads, but it doesnt fall off.
Proper (ie custom steel) bike soften come with a small boss or hook to make sure it never, ever falls off.
For everyday, get-me-home repairs I use a mini pump.
Plastic (fibre glass) tyre levers will do less damage to your rim than metal ones.
Put a small patch of sandpaper and some chalk into your patch kit for more effective repairs. Keep your spare inner in a plastic bag for protection.
Proper (ie custom steel) bike soften come with a small boss or hook to make sure it never, ever falls off.
For everyday, get-me-home repairs I use a mini pump.
Plastic (fibre glass) tyre levers will do less damage to your rim than metal ones.
Put a small patch of sandpaper and some chalk into your patch kit for more effective repairs. Keep your spare inner in a plastic bag for protection.
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I just bought this. Mounts anywhere you want. The best part is that it has a pressure gauge, as well as a high pressure/high volume switch.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4361
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4361
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i carry a tube, a multi-tool, a c02 pump, three c02 carts, a patch kit and 2 tire levers in my camelbak. that way i figure i can patch myself twice and a friend once and still get my butt home.
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Zefal HPX frame pump [up tp 160psi (it says it on the box)]
Tire levers, spare tube and a puncture kit.
You might wanna carry a couple of Allen wrenches also. I carry a 5mm one, because there's about 10 5mm bolts on a bike, and I can also adjust my seat height.
Most guys also carry a few bucks and a cell phone.
Carrying much more starts to get too heavy, which kinda defeats the purpose of buying a fancy bike in the first place
Tire levers, spare tube and a puncture kit.
You might wanna carry a couple of Allen wrenches also. I carry a 5mm one, because there's about 10 5mm bolts on a bike, and I can also adjust my seat height.
Most guys also carry a few bucks and a cell phone.
Carrying much more starts to get too heavy, which kinda defeats the purpose of buying a fancy bike in the first place
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I have a Specialized PVO (Presta Valve Only) pump. It works ok but it takes a bit of time to get it to 100 psi. One other thing I carry is a presta to schrader adaptor. It lets you use a gas station compressor on your presta valve. Cost 99 cents at the LBS.
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Originally Posted by Fat Hack
Zefal HPX frame pump [up tp 160psi (it says it on the box)]
Tire levers, spare tube and a puncture kit.
You might wanna carry a couple of Allen wrenches also. I carry a 5mm one, because there's about 10 5mm bolts on a bike, and I can also adjust my seat height.
Most guys also carry a few bucks and a cell phone.
Carrying much more starts to get too heavy, which kinda defeats the purpose of buying a fancy bike in the first place
Tire levers, spare tube and a puncture kit.
You might wanna carry a couple of Allen wrenches also. I carry a 5mm one, because there's about 10 5mm bolts on a bike, and I can also adjust my seat height.
Most guys also carry a few bucks and a cell phone.
Carrying much more starts to get too heavy, which kinda defeats the purpose of buying a fancy bike in the first place

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What I carry:
Chain tool, frame pump, spanner, floor stand, TIG welder, crank puller, floor pump, third hand, fourth hand, truing stand, pedal wrench, bearing press, levers, hex set, sprocket chain, spoke wrench, two water bottles, cell phone, gps unit, $172.50, power bar, pork roast, spare socks, arm and leg warmers, spare spokes, flare gun, mace, a video of the 1992 Liege-Bastogne-Liege, bike lock, and on really long rides, a generator.
Seriously.
You might want to add a few things.
Chain tool, frame pump, spanner, floor stand, TIG welder, crank puller, floor pump, third hand, fourth hand, truing stand, pedal wrench, bearing press, levers, hex set, sprocket chain, spoke wrench, two water bottles, cell phone, gps unit, $172.50, power bar, pork roast, spare socks, arm and leg warmers, spare spokes, flare gun, mace, a video of the 1992 Liege-Bastogne-Liege, bike lock, and on really long rides, a generator.
Seriously.
You might want to add a few things.
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Originally Posted by Laggard
What I carry:
Chain tool, frame pump, spanner, floor stand, TIG welder, crank puller, floor pump, third hand, fourth hand, truing stand, pedal wrench, bearing press, levers, hex set, sprocket chain, spoke wrench, two water bottles, cell phone, gps unit, $172.50, power bar, pork roast, spare socks, arm and leg warmers, spare spokes, flare gun, mace, a video of the 1992 Liege-Bastogne-Liege, bike lock, and on really long rides, a generator.
Chain tool, frame pump, spanner, floor stand, TIG welder, crank puller, floor pump, third hand, fourth hand, truing stand, pedal wrench, bearing press, levers, hex set, sprocket chain, spoke wrench, two water bottles, cell phone, gps unit, $172.50, power bar, pork roast, spare socks, arm and leg warmers, spare spokes, flare gun, mace, a video of the 1992 Liege-Bastogne-Liege, bike lock, and on really long rides, a generator.
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Defenatly strap down a frame pump. I had mine fall off while cornering, hit my knee, distract me for just a split second, and the next thing I know I'm sliding on my back (luckily in the grass).
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Blackburn Air Stick. Comes with it's own frame attachment that screws into the bottle-holder holes. The pump is held in place by tension (clips into two arms) and a velcro strap. I've had it on two bikes and it has never even remotely looked like falling off. I don't give a fart what it looks like on the bike and I don't care to mess with CO2, so it works for me! Rated up to 140 psi, btw.
#19
I carry a Topeak Road Morph, a Topeak Alien toolkit, one spare tube on shorter (<50 miles), a patch kit, a spare Shimano pin (in case someone needs one) and a spare Powerlink (also in case someone needs one).
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Originally Posted by DEK
I have the Topeak Road Morph and it's never fallen off for me.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4361
It's a great little pump that converts to a floor pump, too.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4361
It's a great little pump that converts to a floor pump, too.
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Originally Posted by Laggard
What I carry:
Chain tool, frame pump, spanner, floor stand, TIG welder, crank puller, floor pump, third hand, fourth hand, truing stand, pedal wrench, bearing press, levers, hex set, sprocket chain, spoke wrench, two water bottles, cell phone, gps unit, $172.50, power bar, pork roast, spare socks, arm and leg warmers, spare spokes, flare gun, mace, a video of the 1992 Liege-Bastogne-Liege, bike lock, and on really long rides, a generator.
Seriously.
You might want to add a few things.
Chain tool, frame pump, spanner, floor stand, TIG welder, crank puller, floor pump, third hand, fourth hand, truing stand, pedal wrench, bearing press, levers, hex set, sprocket chain, spoke wrench, two water bottles, cell phone, gps unit, $172.50, power bar, pork roast, spare socks, arm and leg warmers, spare spokes, flare gun, mace, a video of the 1992 Liege-Bastogne-Liege, bike lock, and on really long rides, a generator.
Seriously.
You might want to add a few things.
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I've heard good things about the RavX Master X Mini, it is like a C02 inflator but doubles as a mini pump if you don't want to carry (or run out of) CO2.
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Ok, your going to get very confused by all the advice, so here's one more to add to the confusion!
Personally I like frame pumps because they can pump to higher pressure faster then a mini; I own both but only take the mini on trips less than 75 miles because I ride on Specialize Armadillo's thus flats are very rare. The mini I carry is the smallest lightest mini on the market, it's a Torelli Aria and clips onto the side of a water bottle cage or fit's into a seat bag or jersey pocket or CamelBack pocket. I've used the mini and yes it does take quite a few pumps but your not sitting there pumping and watching the sun set! Probably takes about 45 pumps to get the pressure to 80psi.
Tool wise is weird for me because I ride in remote areas and don't like to be dependent on my wife to come get me should something happen if at all possible. So I carry a Park MTB1 (they now have a better one called MTB3); this thing has about 21 different tools in it...but I ride a road bike and the included tire levers are too wide because it was made for a MTB. So I also carry 2 tire irons, a Quik Stik (that removes tires fast) and a VAR tire tool that allow me to be able to put on that last inch of the very stiff Armadillo tires without worrying about damaging the rim, tire or tube doing it. I also carry a cheap Walmart Eddie Bower (sp?) mini tool that has a pair of needle nose pliers that fold up very small. That's it for tools.
I also carry a glueless patches because they work just as good as the glue type without the glue step and wait to dry time, and no worries about finding a dried glue tube; and a tire boot. I also carry a spare tube, spare ultralight racing tire, extra batteries for the rear tail light and computer, $25 cash (for food or some sort of emergency), some first aide stuff like bandaides, a gauze pad, ointment, and alcohol wipes; photo ID; and a key to get into the house.
Personally I like frame pumps because they can pump to higher pressure faster then a mini; I own both but only take the mini on trips less than 75 miles because I ride on Specialize Armadillo's thus flats are very rare. The mini I carry is the smallest lightest mini on the market, it's a Torelli Aria and clips onto the side of a water bottle cage or fit's into a seat bag or jersey pocket or CamelBack pocket. I've used the mini and yes it does take quite a few pumps but your not sitting there pumping and watching the sun set! Probably takes about 45 pumps to get the pressure to 80psi.
Tool wise is weird for me because I ride in remote areas and don't like to be dependent on my wife to come get me should something happen if at all possible. So I carry a Park MTB1 (they now have a better one called MTB3); this thing has about 21 different tools in it...but I ride a road bike and the included tire levers are too wide because it was made for a MTB. So I also carry 2 tire irons, a Quik Stik (that removes tires fast) and a VAR tire tool that allow me to be able to put on that last inch of the very stiff Armadillo tires without worrying about damaging the rim, tire or tube doing it. I also carry a cheap Walmart Eddie Bower (sp?) mini tool that has a pair of needle nose pliers that fold up very small. That's it for tools.
I also carry a glueless patches because they work just as good as the glue type without the glue step and wait to dry time, and no worries about finding a dried glue tube; and a tire boot. I also carry a spare tube, spare ultralight racing tire, extra batteries for the rear tail light and computer, $25 cash (for food or some sort of emergency), some first aide stuff like bandaides, a gauze pad, ointment, and alcohol wipes; photo ID; and a key to get into the house.
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Originally Posted by DEK
I have the Topeak Road Morph and it's never fallen off for me.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4361
It's a great little pump that converts to a floor pump, too.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4361
It's a great little pump that converts to a floor pump, too.
I also have a wedge-seat-pack thingy with a crappy Schwinn bike tool (that I use more than my $75.00 Leatherman Wave), patch kit, tire levers and a wrench (I've got bolt-on wheels). I keep the spare tube in the back of my jersey when I ride.
At home I have the Topeak Joe Blow Sprint floor pump, it's the one I use mainly.




