Either I'm the weakest guy on this forum or there are some super doper... I mean duper riders on here. I've had 21% on screen for about 100yards I couldn't imagine seeing it for a mile, good god I'd fall over from lack of breathing ability.

This one.

Didn'cha just know this was going to turn into another p*ssing contest. OP, well done for conquering that climb. Next time you do it, it'll get a little easier and before long, like a moth to a flame, you'll be looking for longer more insane climbs.

Yes, 18% is very steep.

Funny this should come up- I rode the whole of Potrero Rd. today (going east) and just about had a heart attack several times. It's described as averaging 9.7%, with max grades of 15%, but I saw 17-18% a few times on the Garmin. Then, I had to climb Westlake/Decker back to Mulholland. That hurt.


I realized, though, that the sole purpose for riding grades above 10-12% is to make the 7-8% grades feel easy.

I live a mile from a road that averages 4% for about one mile. I'm going to make that climb someday!

I live in the area and I think I know that climb. You'll never do it. Stick to Baseline.

Steep is when the auto-pause on my garmin activates.

It's only decker from the Malibu side. Decker ends at the intersection with mulholland highway.

How did you end up all the way out to potrero? Did you go around pt mugu?

I guess that means you did potrero and old potrero... I assume you are talking about the top of the first one before it turns into Lynn.

I was on potrero today also, but it was just the old potrero part that drops you into hidden valley.

I live on a 15% hill and when going down the hill on our tandem allows for impressive speeds. After a long ride back, it again allows us some impressive speeds going up the hill. We have stripped a freehub once. Either way, I agree with the other post, when the auto pause is on, it is steep.

My Garmin gets really wonky on long, slow, "steep" climbs. I've seen numbers going up as high as 20% turn into 12% or so going down. I think the grade calculation gets stupid at low speeds.

Lots of factors are at play here I think. Speed numbers by GPS can be erratic, but the reading on the way up *can* be more accurate. Depending upon whether you've got your Garmin set on smart recording or every second recording, you'll sample more data points at lower speed, so I tend to believe the uphill numbers more than the downhill, just because there should be a more accurate picture of the climb due to a larger number of datapoints.

This is my favorite kind of BF troll post.

Exactly. Up PCH from Malibu Cyn, around Mugu (or, the "big f'ing rock" as I like to call it), then Potrero from the West end to Westlake/Decker, then down Latigo to the start. Hmm, I could have sworn there were signs saying "Decker" on Westlake before it hits Mulholland...

It was rough, but I was able to push through. I doubt I couldhave done that a year or so ago. It's nice to see progress, but for me, climbing always shows me where my limitations are. You, on the other hand, just seem to be getting stronger and stronger. Nice!

Maybe I should go read the "genetics" thread, but I suspect it'll just confirm what I already know...

There's one stretch of street in Sea-town that makes the 705 read 30% grade, consistently, but it's only a few blocks long.

But to answer the question I usually end up looking down to check the grade when it gets somewhere around 10% it seems.

My VDO has been misreading speed lately, with it either coming up really low or saying zero. That made descending Piuma look cool since it thought I was going 4 mph instead of 30+. That made the computer think I was on a 30+ grade!

there are three hills leading up to my place (only way in). all three are 18% for a mile, then 14% for another 3/4 of a mile, so it doesn't matter which i choose...i'm still boned. that last climb is a big reason why I don't commute to work most of the time. I'm perfectly fine on everything else, but that stretch kills me even on 34/25.

Neither of these two are steep- I do steeper on my local hills with ease but do either of these and I am toast.

I slapped on one of these. My secret weapon. 20% - no problem.

Sweet Mother of Merckx that's the most Diabolically Fredly thing I've ever seen in my BF Life.

Well done.