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Old 01-01-10, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
Really is that much better than Force or Rival.

Nothing compares to zero-loss in the rear.

Agreed! Red is a lot of fun.

That being said, 105 and Rival are also favorites for price to performance ratio.
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My 105 shifts great, but just for fun I went on the weight weenies web site and discovered I could lose about 1.5 pounds by going from my current group to Red. But it would also cost more than I paid for the bike itself. My new plan is to wait 2 or 3 years and buy a used bike with Red.
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Groupsets may be dramatically different in 2 to 3 years...
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They may be, but I can afford a 2-3 year old bike in 2-3 years, but not a new one.
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The components hanging off my frame definitely cost more than the frame itself. Nothing wrong with that.
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Originally Posted by cooleric1234
Don't insult engineers (I am one too). Maybe that's not your strength but I view an engineer like a scientist, always in search of truth and it's applications. That applies to language as well.
Dear God... you bothered to write that, but included an apostrophe error!?
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Originally Posted by ok_commuter
Dear God... you bothered to write that, but included an apostrophe error!?
Its vs. It's???
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Originally Posted by JaeOne3345
Its vs. It's???
people took that comment way too seriously, haha. i certainly didn't mean to insult engineers everywhere (for the record, i don't actually consider myself to be particularly bad at writing...)
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