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01-01-10 | 08:27 PM

#51

Matt2.8NJ

una carrera contrarreloj

Joined: Apr 2009

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From: NYC/NJ

Bikes: Venge, Tarmac, Cervelo P2

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Originally Posted by bdcheung

Really is that much better than Force or Rival.

Nothing compares to zero-loss in the rear.

Agreed! Red is a lot of fun.

That being said, 105 and Rival are also favorites for price to performance ratio.

01-01-10 | 09:02 PM

#52

WalksOn2Wheels

Vain, But Lacking Talent

Joined: Aug 2009

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From: Denton, TX

Bikes: Trek Domane 5.9 DA 9000, Trek Crockett Pink Frosting w/105 5700

My 105 shifts great, but just for fun I went on the weight weenies web site and discovered I could lose about 1.5 pounds by going from my current group to Red. But it would also cost more than I paid for the bike itself. My new plan is to wait 2 or 3 years and buy a used bike with Red.

01-02-10 | 07:45 AM

#53

bdcheung

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Carpe Diem

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From: MABRA

Bikes: 2007 CAAD9; 2014 CAADX; PedalForce CG1

Groupsets may be dramatically different in 2 to 3 years...

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01-02-10 | 10:28 AM

#54

WalksOn2Wheels

Vain, But Lacking Talent

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From: Denton, TX

Bikes: Trek Domane 5.9 DA 9000, Trek Crockett Pink Frosting w/105 5700

They may be, but I can afford a 2-3 year old bike in 2-3 years, but not a new one.

01-02-10 | 10:47 AM

#55

bdcheung

Thread Starter

Carpe Diem

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From: MABRA

Bikes: 2007 CAAD9; 2014 CAADX; PedalForce CG1

The components hanging off my frame definitely cost more than the frame itself. Nothing wrong with that.

01-02-10 | 01:16 PM

#56

ok_commuter

bulletproof tiger

Joined: Apr 2008

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From: Portland, OR

Bikes: Waterford 2200, Litespeed Tuscany, Salsa La Cruz, Kona Fire Mountain

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooleric1234

Don't insult engineers (I am one too). Maybe that's not your strength but I view an engineer like a scientist, always in search of truth and it's applications. That applies to language as well.

Dear God... you bothered to write that, but included an apostrophe error!?

01-02-10 | 02:58 PM

#57

JaeOne3345

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ok_commuter

Dear God... you bothered to write that, but included an apostrophe error!?

Its vs. It's???

01-02-10 | 03:55 PM

#58

thegunner

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JaeOne3345

Its vs. It's???

people took that comment way too seriously, haha. i certainly didn't mean to insult engineers everywhere (for the record, i don't actually consider myself to be particularly bad at writing...)