Originally Posted by cia dog (Post 10430187)

Man I don't know where your reading abilities are but there sure weren't here tonight. I rode the Madone because a friend of mine wanted me to test ride it, so I did, I didn't want to buy it but also I didn't want it and I wasn't thrilled enough to be swooned. And I also said it's your money you can spend it anyway you see necessary to fill the hole in your life...ok, I didn't say it that way you can reread it to get the exact rendering, but essentially that's the deal. And part of that hole in your life is thinking that if someone doesn't have a bike or car or house or whatever as good as what you have then they must be poor miserable souls and maybe someday they can rise to your level. I can tell from reading your post I don't want to be anywhere near your level! For me to spend $6,000 for a bike that I could never make it go the way Lance does is not a wise expenditure of money when a steel or even a less expensive bike that weighs the same as the Madone would be a better purchase. Personally I have a gripe against CF bicycles but that's a debate that has raged wars here and I'm not going to enter into that. I have other investments that I pour my money into and a bike is not an investment in the true sense of the word which is the use of money for future profit...and a Madone is not that.

Originally Posted by cia dog (Post 10430209)

I am a throwback, I like things that are throwbacks, why? Because their made better. Oops did I say that? Oh boy here comes the war; I'll just sit back on my old rocking chair and laugh like a silly little school girl while reading the replies and listening to Led Zeppelin that was also better then modern rock bands...crap there I go again!

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 10430847)

Man, this post is just riddled with insecurity and projection.

Appreciating and purchasing high quality goods =/= filling a hole is one's life. It may, but it's no certainty. If you think otherwise, it says more about you than anything else.

...and I find it funny that your post, monastic from the start, ends with a comment that a true investment must include monetary returns. Wow.

Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy (Post 10431032)

I don't like Led Zeppelin (or any rock for that matter).

I don't consider myself a throwback.

Originally Posted by cia dog (Post 10430187)

For me to spend $6,000 for a bike that I could never make it go the way Lance does is not a wise expenditure of money when a steel or even a less expensive bike that weighs the same as the Madone would be a better purchase.... I have other investments that I pour my money into and a bike is not an investment in the true sense of the word which is the use of money for future profit...and a Madone is not that.

Originally Posted by cia dog (Post 10429388)

but I didn't like the ride quality of it so it's a mute point.

Originally Posted by cia dog (Post 10430209)

I am a throwback, I like things that are throwbacks, why? Because their made better. Oops did I say that? Oh boy here comes the war; I'll just sit back on my old rocking chair and laugh like a silly little school girl while reading the replies and listening to Led Zeppelin that was also better then modern rock bands...crap there I go again!

Originally Posted by slothlike (Post 10431239)

I don't begrudge anyone their gear. If you can afford it, go for it. I own 3 high end carbon bikes and 2 ti. I don't have a gym membership, never did. Riding is my gym, hobby, salvation. Whatever. I understand Pcad's excitement about his new bike, but man is he such an attention *****. I get it!!! This doesn't make him a bad person as it is all in good fun, but when he puts himself out there, he should expect reaction like some. In fact, you don't need to be Columbo to figure out he enjoys the negative as it keeps his threads going. I commented on his Scott not out of jealousy (ie. 5 bikes), but more out of experience with back issues and Scott's notoriously harsh ride.

This is the difference between this forum and weightweenies or RBR. There, you talk shop, here is more like high school. Makes it more humorous so I don't know why some of you guys feign anger about negative reactions to Pcad's insanity when it is the exact dynamic he wishes to cultivate and you guys enjoy witnessing. It is one big hot F$#$#$#$ mess if you ask me.

Originally Posted by cia dog (Post 10430209)

I am a throwback, I like things that are throwbacks, why? Because their made better. Oops did I say that? Oh boy here comes the war; I'll just sit back on my old rocking chair and laugh like a silly little school girl while reading the replies and listening to Led Zeppelin that was also better then modern rock bands...crap there I go again!

Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy (Post 10431255)

why are you still here?

Originally Posted by v70cat (Post 10431294)

Lets not hijack this thread, I suggest that the dog start his own thread about how old is better than new.

I know that I like my CF bike and it is a healthy addictions.

Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy (Post 10431285)

I'd take twelve pcads over one self-important humorless whiner any day.

Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy (Post 10431329)

I don't deny you the right to say what you say.

I am opposed to your insistence that your opinions somehow carry more weight than anyone else's.

And no, it doesn't hurt.

Originally Posted by rollin (Post 10431312)

Yeah, it would be a real shame to derail one of PCad's schwag threads :lol:

Originally Posted by slothlike (Post 10429243)

Yes you are cuz you ride a mid-level Scott while the guy who rides this doesn't look for same amount of attention and affirmation.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=138360

Originally Posted by slothlike (Post 10431239)

This is the difference between this forum and weightweenies or RBR. There, you talk shop, here is more like high school.

Originally Posted by slothlike (Post 10431273)

Why else would a mid level bike with mid shelf components get this much attention. He'd get 3 responses on weightweenies.