Originally Posted by kimconyc (Post 10400470)

:lol: Are you seriously going to reference Velonews for real world prices? I'm glad I didn't just pay an extra $700 for the Dura Ace wheels I just ordered...

As for the shop talk, NY is relatively flat. I can power up any climb (or any that I have found so far) without changing gears too much.

Nevertheless, when I was out in CA with legitimate mountains consisting of multiple switchbacks, elevation changes, etc., it would have been nice--as in a novelty--to have Di2's mouse button shifting and auto-trim as opposed to SRAM Red.

At my level of riding, however, let's face it, Tiagra tuned by my hands is good enough. But make no mistake, Di2 is just better...

Originally Posted by slothlike (Post 10400608)

Yep, I am serious. Whether or not the market dictates prices to go down due to sales has nothing to do with what Shimano originally set for the group price which IS HIGHER than Force. Force is selling better and I have seen Rival prices go up fom when I got mine (09 Rival). So it is not surprising that Shimano set unrealistic MSRPs with the necessity to have to lower the price once it hit the market with lukewarm reviews.

Originally Posted by jdon (Post 10400484)

Yeah, yeah... and Molly Sims is a dog too right?

If you can't have it, criticize it..:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10400061)

If this thread doesn't go 10 pages I'm quitting BF.

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10400548)

15 lbs, 11oz with Zipp Tubies.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...pptubulars.jpg

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10400548)

15 lbs, 11oz with Zipp Tubies.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...pptubulars.jpg

Originally Posted by kimconyc (Post 10400610)

Hey, I have a condo to sell you in FL @ '07 MSRP.

Originally Posted by MUZE (Post 10400592)

Cervelo vs. Scott

You'd never confuse either bike with the other. They each are great looking in their own way and each makes for another band-width sucking pointless Epic Pcad BF Thread.

Congrats on your continuing addiction.

Originally Posted by Will G (Post 10400699)

What saddle do you have on that thing?

Originally Posted by kimconyc (Post 10400597)

Bear Mountain is not a mountain, it should be renamed Bear Hill. Plus, where are the friggin bears anyway?

Originally Posted by slothlike (Post 10400713)

Here you go, but you seem to have all the answers. You do the math.

http://www.glorycycles.com/shul67gr.html

http://www.glorycycles.com/srfo20grset.html

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10400734)

I actually saw a bear crossing the road not far from Bear Mountain. Trust me, there are bears in that area, they are very people-shy and essentially nocturnal, so you're not going to see them often. Hell, we get one raiding our own garbage here on Mt. Doom a couple of times a year.

Actually, Bear Mountain is a 1200 vertical feet, 4 mile climb from the Hudson River (9W near Iona Island) to the top, so it's really a small mountain by most definitions. This mountain vs. hill debate is rather silly in my view. At the end of the day it depends who you're chasing up the hill it that makes it hard.

Originally Posted by kimconyc (Post 10400856)

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/facepalm.gif

http://www.totalcycling.com/index.ph...urrency&id=USD



This is true.

Originally Posted by Jancouver (Post 10400645)

No, I cant have it, but I'm OK with my '10 SuperSix Hi-Mod & '09 Cervelo P3 .....

Oh yeah, forgot to mention the SuperSix in size 60 with pedals, cages and computer is 14lb5oz ...

Originally Posted by paste_me (Post 10400906)

That is an amazing carpet. Is it turkish?

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10400115)

Scott marketing is rather misleading on this. The RC and R1 incorporate a lighter CF than the R2, R3, the pricier RC and R1 frames are actually about 150 grams lighter than the R2/R3 bikes. Also the R2/3 have a proprietary BB design (developed in conjunction with Shimano) that may be stiffer, brings Shimano crank arms closer to the frame. You do have to do some digging to learn this. My guess is the R2 frame is 975 grams or so vs. 830 for the RC 56cm frame. Bikes don't feel different (or so I'm told), and they are all still relatively light, but there you have it. I knew this going in.

Hey, the bike crap I sold generated $1800 of revenue, the other crap I sold here over $800 (old R/C cars, etc.), so my out of pocket for this swap was <$1000, made sense to me. New/better/lighter bike with zero miles vs. older bike with 25 THOUSAND miles on the frame and its components.

I'm not including the $800 I spent on those D.A. wheels. Look boys, this stuff is like crack, once you get going, it's hard to stop. Some of you know this.

Originally Posted by aham23 (Post 10401035)

im not reading thru the puke pages of this thead and i have no idea why the man has, wants, or needs a new ride. i just need to know when he will slap some PSIMET hoo on it and roll out in sub zero i am the greatest road nazi evar temps then post up all about..................so PM with the details. later.