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Old 02-20-10 | 08:50 PM
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Since I've installed FSA K-wind I only had a chance to ride it on the rollers. Until today. Took it outside, finally Two things I've noticed right away - Fizik mictotex tape is too slippery ( really like the way it look and feels, but apparently not grippy enough for me). Salvaged my old red lizard skin from original handlebar. Second thing - when on drops it was very hard to shift and brake, I took a closer look at my shifter and I think that they're too erected before. I did some adjustment and took it for a quick spin, seems to shift alright now. Tomorrow will be another nice day for ride so I can try it for a longer ride.

Which one is looks more natural to you?

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Old 02-20-10 | 08:53 PM
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The red looks better.

The one that is better is the one that feels better to you.
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Old 02-20-10 | 08:55 PM
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The red looks better.

The one that is better is the one that feels better to you.
Great, it also feels better as well.

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Old 02-20-10 | 10:57 PM
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Prior setup looks much better.
I also had the lizard skins tape, loved it!


Question, the Pro3race, new? How do you like them? How many times have you got out on them. What are you comparing them too (previous tires).
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Old 02-20-10 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by markieta
Prior setup looks much better.
I also had the lizard skins tape, loved it!


Question, the Pro3race, new? How do you like them? How many times have you got out on them. What are you comparing them too (previous tires).
Prior? The one with white tape is better?

ProRace are fine, I just had a couple of times on them outside. Feel pretty good and grippy in +2 C temps. Before was riding on Bontrager tires the one that bike came with.
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Old 02-20-10 | 11:06 PM
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Prior - Red. I meant, before the swap to the white tape + new bars... Sorry.

I am on the bonty tires as well.. not liking them too much. I feel a little jittery in corners compared to my continental Attack/Force set... I shall see when it gets warmer.
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Old 02-20-10 | 11:07 PM
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I would have kept as shown on the right, but rotated the bars themselves down. I think your bars are actually pointed too much "up"...or drops pointed too "down", however you want to look at it.

I would also remove the 1" protrusion from above your stem. If that's a CF steerer tube, that may actually be structurally dangerous, depending on the setup.
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Originally Posted by markieta
Prior - Red. I meant, before the swap to the white tape + new bars... Sorry.

I am on the bonty tires as well.. not liking them too much. I feel a little jittery in corners compared to my continental Attack/Force set... I shall see when it gets warmer.
White was before Swapped to red. Pictures are not in order, sorry
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Old 02-20-10 | 11:18 PM
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How they look doesn't matter at all. How they FEEL TO YOU is all that counts.
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Old 02-20-10 | 11:19 PM
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I would have kept as shown on the right, but rotated the bars themselves down. I think your bars are actually pointed too much "up"...or drops pointed too "down", however you want to look at it.

I would also remove the 1" protrusion from above your stem. If that's a CF steerer tube, that may actually be structurally dangerous, depending on the setup.
I've tried that before, it didn't help much reaching levers while on drops.

Here is a picture from a slightly different angle.

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Old 02-20-10 | 11:33 PM
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If that's a CF steerer tube, that may actually be structurally dangerous, depending on the setup.
I, too, was concerned that this might be the case. As a result, I actually went out and did the math! Here's what I came up with:

1" protrusion + Zipps = FRED

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Old 02-21-10 | 12:53 AM
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i, too, was concerned that this might be the case. As a result, i actually went out and did the math! Here's what i came up with:

1" protrusion + zipps = fred

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he's asking US if HIS shifter position is natural, and he gets to have a madone with zipp?
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Old 02-21-10 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Banzai

I would also remove the 1" protrusion from above your stem. If that's a CF steerer tube, that may actually be structurally dangerous, depending on the setup.
Care to elaborate?

Originally Posted by hao
he's asking US if HIS shifter position is natural, and he gets to have a madone with zipp?
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Old 02-21-10 | 08:16 AM
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Old 02-21-10 | 08:30 AM
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Old 02-21-10 | 08:32 AM
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I installed the same bars last year and I had the exact same issue. I ended up with them like the Red (left) photo. Seems more natural now, the levers are basically flat and an extension of the top flat section of bar. This makes it is more comforatble on the hands.
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are your hands particularly small?

when i install new bars i generally like to take a quick spin outside without my bars taped and with a wrench in my pocket to tweak the shifter position as often as necessary to get it perfect. i've been riding these same bars for a while now, and i love them, no reach discomfort at all. go with whats comfortable for you, and great looking bike!
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Old 02-21-10 | 10:20 AM
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he's asking US if HIS shifter position is natural, and he gets to have a madone with zipp?
Oh yeah?! Well the jerk store called. They're runnin' outta you!


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Old 02-21-10 | 10:26 AM
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Oh yeah?! Well the jerk store called. They're runnin' outta you!


Meh, I've seen better set up Treks with zipps....

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Old 02-21-10 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AngryScientist
are your hands particularly small?

when i install new bars i generally like to take a quick spin outside without my bars taped and with a wrench in my pocket to tweak the shifter position as often as necessary to get it perfect. i've been riding these same bars for a while now, and i love them, no reach discomfort at all. go with whats comfortable for you, and great looking bike!
Thanks for a good advise.
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Old 02-21-10 | 10:58 AM
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Red looks easier to brake and shift from drops. White looks easier to brake and shift from hoods.
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The red is far more proper, because you have a smooth transition from shifter to bar. If you are still not comfortable, try pointing them up just slightly (maybe 3 mm rise by the time you hit the end of the flat part of the shifter) rather than perfectly level--far less than with the white tape. I think that might be optimal.
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Old 02-21-10 | 11:13 AM
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Care to elaborate?
Stem clamped to steerer tube below the expander plug insertion depth. Bad stuff...nothing reinforcing the inside of the clamp area. Given the length of protrusion, I don't believe that there are expander plugs that actually can insert that deep that the top cap will still be able to engage.

Most manufacturers publish safety notes with CF steerers that specify how much steerer tube should protrude. Depending on the tube and the specs of the plug, it's either none, or up to about 1 cm. They are usually pretty specific about it too.

If it's an alloy steerer, it doesn't matter.
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Originally Posted by Banzai
Stem clamped to steerer tube below the expander plug insertion depth. Bad stuff...nothing reinforcing the inside of the clamp area. Given the length of protrusion, I don't believe that there are expander plugs that actually can insert that deep that the top cap will still be able to engage.

Most manufacturers publish safety notes with CF steerers that specify how much steerer tube should protrude. Depending on the tube and the specs of the plug, it's either none, or up to about 1 cm. They are usually pretty specific about it too.

If it's an alloy steerer, it doesn't matter.
I'm going to have to look into this, maybe I'll cut my steerer sooner than later.
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