for campy drivetrains. whats the consensus ? good or bad?

they're substantially cheaper than their campy counterparts, but at what expense??

No clue but for that price why complain?

Campy's cassettes have some different width spacers- I think the middle 3-4 cogs use narrower spacers. The Miche cassettes have spacers that are all the same width.

Never really noticed a difference between my Miche and Campy cassettes, but my shifters are older and have some slop.

Miche has loose cogs (you can mix/match easier), they're somewhat heavy, I think some folks have had some of the smaller cogs crack. I have a cassette, no problems, but I haven't used it much. I'm going to be buying one or two more for training wheels, using lighter Campy cassettes for race wheels.

Next winter, unless something happens, I'll probably switch over to 10s Shimano/SRAM cassettes and SRAM rear derailleurs (while keeping the 10s Ergos). I tried it out on a bike, worked, but since I have some Campy cassettes left, I'll use them for one more year.

cdr

i know you ride a lot, but do you really go through that many cassettes to justify making the switch away from campy stuff?

I have used the 10S cassettes and find them serviceable. Mine last about 4-5000 miles each.

Cons: Heavy, broke to breaking teeth, and shift quality is just a smidge less than optimal.

Pros: They have the gear combo Campy won't make (12-27), they're cheap, and shift quality is only a smidge less than optimal.

I don't ride a lot. 150-200 hours a year usually, which, in the scheme of things, is not a lot. I also try and keep my bike relatively clean.

I buy 3-4 cassettes every few years. If I buy cassettes I want at low retail, they'll set me back $500-600, chains will be $150 for a pair or so. I'd like to get one lighter cassette for my race wheel, a couple medium level cassettes, and the rest whatever I can find.

If I do a bulk buy of (SRAM) derailleurs, (SRAM/Shimano) cassettes, and (SRAM/Shimano) chains, I can get two rear derailleurs, two or more chains, cassettes (6-8 of them), freehub bodies for a few wheels, for about the same amount of money (as the Campy cassettes/chains alone). Heck, some of the cheaper 10s cassettes are under $20 - I can barely buy a cog for a Campy cassette wholesale for that.

For the SRAM/Campy thing I just have to make the change all at once.

If I get some cable pull adjuster then I skip buying the rear derailleurs and use the Campy rear derailleurs I have.

I expect to go through my last good cassette/s this year. I have a Record and a Chorus left, plus the Miche. I have two full-ti cassettes but I don't feel the need to use them up (they're non-Campy, lower quality).

cdr

I have some Miche cogs that I mixed with Shimano cogs to make a custom cassette, and they worked fine.

I made a 12-13-14-15-16-17-18-20-22-25 10 speed, with the 12-18 off a Shimano cassette and replaced the top three with the Miche.

I'm bumping an older post to see if there is anyone else that has something to chip in on the issue. Searching around, it seems like 50% of people find them to be fine, 20% have a really good experience and 30% really don't care for them or have a truly bad experience.

I haven't compared prices at my LBS yet but I'm guessing it'll be something like $75 for the Miche(comes with lockring) and $125 for a Veloce with lockring.

If it's a matter of setup, I don't mind taking a few extra minutes. However, if it's a matter of plain out never working right, I'd rather just save myself the headache.

I've used their 9 speed cassettes, a few years ago albeit....but I never had any issues with them.

30% guy here. I bought a Miche for a very hilly ride. I thought it shifted noticeably poorer than my Record cassettes. Would you like to buy it cheaply???

I tried Miche, I think it was from reading Sheldon Brown. You can separate the cogs really easily, play with whatever ones you want to use (for 9-speed indexed controls, but only 7 speed non-stretchable alu frame, we bump it up to 8 speeds by removing a 9-speed-cassette cog.) I like it.

Campy 10 speed cassettes are now considerably cheaper than a year ago. Veloce is $54 and Centaur $65. There is no reason to go Miche.

True, but miche has a primato one that is super nice also. Havent seen any store to have them in the states. Why marketing is so like GRAPP with miche? They could do way better in my opinion.

In my experience, Miche is noisier than a Campy cassette.

YMMV.

I bought a Miche shimano cassette this spring and sent it back after 1 ride. It was cheaply made and was very noisy compared to Shimano. I thought it was a piece of ****.

Miches work fine, just not as crisp as campy.. I have bought some 14-23 miche so I could make some custom cassettes using the 18 and 20 cogs which I find I like quite a bit.. If you want real campy, good seller in san diego has Veloce's for 80.00.. I have bought a couple from him and is a good seller.. I like the veloces because they are all individual cogs so you can make your own custom cassettes and they are easier to clean..

https://cgi.ebay.com/Campagnolo-10-sp...ts_Accessories

You can buy brand new Veloce cassette's for $40.

tell me where??

Only if you want a 12-27 10sp cassette. Campy only makes that particular combination in 11 speed.

The Miches aren't ****. I rode Campy since before you were born, probably (1962, first-year record). I got Miche, took the cassette apart. Really fun. I'm mostly riding Sram Red right now. I like doing bike customizations. It's totally fun.

somewhat OT, but if you used a full SRAM setup, would the results using campy wheels still be kosher?

ProBikeKit. So it's $53 currently, but the 10% brings it to like $45. Still better than $80.

If you don't like Miche, don't ride it. i think it's good, but I've only been riding for 48 years, what do I know?

I try to go to my LBS for some stuff, it just seems worth it. If anything give them a chance to get my business.

Eclectus, you shouldn't take it too personally. I'm serious when I say that about one third of actual users find that the cassettes stink.