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Old 04-05-10 | 02:35 PM
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Italian made bikes? Such as? I know some of the current Bianchi's are italian made, but not much else, at least not in the same price range as the CAAD. As far as road bikes goes, the CAAD9 is not a comfort frame, it's a stiff racing frame. It's like buying a corvette then complaining it's not as comfortable as a caddilac.

It's a very good frame and at a relatively good price.
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If you posted here - What is the best bike? The most common answer would be the CAAD 9.

If you posted here - What is the best car to transport a bike? The most common answer would be the Honda Fit (the archives will show lots of these threads).

This is a very good analogy for this forum. Of course, there are lots of owners of much nicer cars that would argue about the Honda Fit and lots of owners of much nicer bikes that would argue about the CAAD 9.
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Old 04-05-10 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jrobe
If you posted here - What is the best bike? The most common answer would be the CAAD 9.
I don't think anyone here would truly argue a Caad 9 is THE best bike. But it is probably the best combination of Price, weight, stiffness and durability out there. - Oh, and I don't own a Caad 9.
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This was my first road bike as well and it does have racing geometry but the riding position is not uncomfortable at all. Mine originally was set up with 4 carbon spacers on the neck and the neck was turned in the upright angle so it was more upright and comfortable riding position. I actually left the spacers and flipped the neck and still feel great on bike just in a better aero position to keep up with my buddies.
"Stem" not "Neck"
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Oh, and I don't own a Caad 9.



I do. It's great right "out of the box", and infinately upgradable, so you don't have to out grow it anytime soon. Some point in the future you may want another bike, but you can easily put 20,000 to 30,000 miles on the CAAD 9 frame.
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Old 04-05-10 | 04:47 PM
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my CAAD9 with training wheels (Mavic OP/Ultegra) rides like a stick of butter on the chip seal back roads here as long as I use the correct pressure. Failure to tune your bike to your road surfaces is not a flaw with the bicycle but rather with the rider.
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Originally Posted by intence
Italian made bikes? Such as? I know some of the current Bianchi's are italian made, but not much else, at least not in the same price range as the CAAD. As far as road bikes goes, the CAAD9 is not a comfort frame, it's a stiff racing frame. It's like buying a corvette then complaining it's not as comfortable as a caddilac.

It's a very good frame and at a relatively good price.
Do you know which ones? I had thought they'd all been moved overseas at this point.
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Old 04-05-10 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CxPilot56
But when riding on rough roads, other cyclists tend to look at me and nod.



The CAAD9 has so many fans because it's very commonly found in shops across the US and the price makes it affordable to many many people.
Nothing wrong with that. More butts on bikes.

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Italian made bikes? Such as?
must be talking about the Corsa FC
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Op, when you say it isn't comfortable, what do you mean? Are you getting pain somewhere? Where? Bu mm? Hand numbies? Sore neck?

Not responsive enough on acceleration or turns, or to twitchy so you don't feel like it responds to your brain commands of what it should do?

Comfort is a complex set of parameters.

Having ridden a long time, I can telly you that you can make a lot of component swaps, adjusting what you have (esep. saddle height and angle), as well as acclimating-yourself-to-the-bike body-ajustments. (riding a lot helps "seat" the latter.)

If you aren't too experienced, a good bike fitter may be in order. But in any case, nobody here can possibly advise you until you figure out and say what "uncomfortable" actually means. Even then, you have to take what they say with a grain of salt.

I've worked with a lot of people, listened to them, and problem-solvedtheir issues. We got to, "Wow, this is great! I wanna ride."

If have any natural riding proclivities, dialing in can be done, no matter what your frame, as long as it isn't outrageously wrong sized. (+/- 2cm is always doable, +/- 4cm, yeah, that can be quite ridable, even though the frame size isn't optimized.)
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Op, when you say it isn't comfortable, what do you mean? Are you getting pain somewhere? Where? Bumm? Hand numbies? Sore neck?

Not responsive enough on acceleration or turns, or to twitchy so you don't feel like it responds to your brain commands of what it "should" do?

Comfort is a complex set of parameters.

Having ridden a long time, I can tell you that you can make a lot of component swaps, adjusting what you have (esp. saddle shape, height and angle, as well as acclimating-yourself-to-the-bike body-ajustments). (Riiding a lot helps "seat" the latter.)

If you aren't experienced, a good bike fitter may be in order. But in any case, nobody here can possibly advise you until you figure out and say what "uncomfortable" actually means. Even then, you have to take what they say with a grain of salt.

I've worked with a lot of people, listened to them, and problem-solved their issues. We got to, "Wow, this is great! I wanna ride." ''Of course you do, I'm Dr. Dialer. I've been road-biking a long time ('63)."

Every mis-fit boils down to "What is bothering you? Pain, numbness, road-surface jarring, winds jaking you around and scaring you, bike handling at slow or high speeds, not as much speed as you thing you could be achieving?"

If have any natural riding proclivities, dialing in can be done, no matter what your frame, as long as it isn't outrageously wrong sized. (+/- 2cm is always doable, +/- 4cm, yeah, that can be quite ridable, even though the frame size isn't optimized.)

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Old 04-05-10 | 06:13 PM
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I have nothing but positive things to say about the CAAD9. I love it, recently purchased and built an Orbea Tri/TT up. BUT the Cannondale is still my favorite bike to ride, race and clean.


ehhh, i havent really raced it....but you get the point.
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Old 04-05-10 | 08:33 PM
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Brian,

When I used to rid to my hose in Lake Oswego, to Forest Hills and back, there was nobody else out there. I wish there were, like somebody coming on my tail, making me push faster, somebody passing me and challenging me to keep up with, somebody going the other way to turn around, and reel in or puke trying.

It is lonely being a pioneer. It's kinda fun, but you'd like to connect with people, and push each other. It wasn't there in 1990. I pioneered roadbiking riding across WV,, I don't get a plaque or memorial service. There are two types of road-riding: I do this first; and "Lots of people have done it, but I'm faster."

I was looking for people to challenge in 1990, but there was nobody there. So I chose to challenge myself,. That's the cool thing about Oregon and BC, when I used to ski out-of-bounds. You break your ankle, you get your family stuck in tree holes and extract them, you force them to trust you, because otherwise they are going to die, you bodysurf with great white sharks, you are willing to risk your life, mostly you just trust God, and go with it. My mom used to say, "You can't test God," well, I did. He always rescued me.


If you don't believe this, I can give you some good recs on where to ski off trail, and swim with Great White Sharks. Grizzly/ Alaskan Brown / Polar bears I'm not sure, but I think I know how to deal with them . Black bears are soo easy...

Dogs, are you kidding me? If you can't project youtrself as an alpha dog, ride in a car, cab or bus.

If you want, I can take you out and show you how to do alpha-dog, if you aren't a weenie. You don't have to put your bike between the dog and you. You don't need pepper spray or ammonia.

There is a way of saying, "I'm alpha, I'm the 4-star general, you're beta, your the colonel, stand down," and they do. Or you are the American general with Marine and Army forces,and Predator drones to drill them, and they are the Taliban chieftans, and the run away.

I've confronted pitt bulls, dobermans and German shepherds, including pot-plot guarding ones in NorCal.. My son was bitten by a pitt-bull. Not me. I make them back off. I don't need chemical spray gun. I just let them know, "You really don't want to mess with me. You might injure me, but you are dead. Is that what you want?" I mean, I love dogs. But if they think they can attack me, I set them straight. I mostly tell them, "I'm just passing through, give me passage, but if you want to fight over it, i'll take you down. I don't want to, I just want to go through, let me pass it's not worth you dying for." And they get it. Dogs are cool.

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Brian,

When I used to rid to my hose in Lake Oswego, to Forest Hills and back, there was nobody else out there. I wish there were, like somebody coming on my tail, making me push faster, somebody passing me and challenging me to keep up with, somebody going the other way to turn around, and reel in or puke trying.

It is lonely being a pioneer. It's kinda fun, but you'd like to connect with people, and push each other. It wasn't there in 1990. I pioneered roadbiking riding across WV,, I don't get a plaque or memorial service. There are two types of road-riding: I do this first; and "Lots of people have done it, but I'm faster."

I was looking for people to challenge in 1990, but there was nobody there. So I chose to challenge myself,. That's the cool thing about Oregon and BC, when I used to ski out-of-bounds. You break your ankle, you get your family stuck in tree holes and extract them, you force them to trust you, because otherwise they are going to die, you bodysurf with great white sharks, you are willing to risk your life, mostly you just trust God, and go with it. My mom used to say, "You can't test God," well, I did. He always rescued me.


If you don't believe this, I can give you some good recs on where to ski off trail, and swim with Great White Sharks. Grizzly/ Alaskan Brown / Polar bears I'm not sure, but I think I know how to deal with them . Black bears are soo easy...

Dogs, are you kidding me? If you can't project youtrself as an alpha dog, ride in a car, cab or bus.

If you want, I can take you out and show you how to do alpha-dog, if you aren't a weenie. You don't have to put your bike between the dog and you. You don't need pepper spray or ammonia.

There is a way of saying, "I'm alpha, I'm the 4-star general, you're beta, your the colonel, stand down," and they do. Or you are the American general with Marine and Army forces,and Predator drones to drill them, and they are the Taliban chieftans, and the run away.

I've confronted pitt bulls, dobermans and German shepherds, including pot-plot guarding ones in NorCal.. My son was bitten by a pitt-bull. Not me. I make them back off. I don't need chemical spray gun. I just let them know, "You really don't want to mess with me. You might injure me, but you are dead. Is that what you want?" I mean, I love dogs. But if they think they can attack me, I set them straight. I mostly tell them, "I'm just passing through, give me passage, but if you want to fight over it, i'll take you down. I don't want to, I just want to go through, let me pass it's not worth you dying for." And they get it. Dogs are cool.

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Since this thread was started by a now banned sock puppet the inclination is to send the thread after its creator.

However, the responses are, by and large, informative.

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Brian,

When I used to rid to my hose in Lake Oswego, to Forest Hills and back, there was nobody else out there. I wish there were, like somebody coming on my tail, making me push faster, somebody passing me and challenging me to keep up with, somebody going the other way to turn around, and reel in or puke trying.

It is lonely being a pioneer. It's kinda fun, but you'd like to connect with people, and push each other. It wasn't there in 1990. I pioneered roadbiking riding across WV,, I don't get a plaque or memorial service. There are two types of road-riding: I do this first; and "Lots of people have done it, but I'm faster."

I was looking for people to challenge in 1990, but there was nobody there. So I chose to challenge myself,. That's the cool thing about Oregon and BC, when I used to ski out-of-bounds. You break your ankle, you get your family stuck in tree holes and extract them, you force them to trust you, because otherwise they are going to die, you bodysurf with great white sharks, you are willing to risk your life, mostly you just trust God, and go with it. My mom used to say, "You can't test God," well, I did. He always rescued me.


If you don't believe this, I can give you some good recs on where to ski off trail, and swim with Great White Sharks. Grizzly/ Alaskan Brown / Polar bears I'm not sure, but I think I know how to deal with them . Black bears are soo easy...

Dogs, are you kidding me? If you can't project youtrself as an alpha dog, ride in a car, cab or bus.

If you want, I can take you out and show you how to do alpha-dog, if you aren't a weenie. You don't have to put your bike between the dog and you. You don't need pepper spray or ammonia.

There is a way of saying, "I'm alpha, I'm the 4-star general, you're beta, your the colonel, stand down," and they do. Or you are the American general with Marine and Army forces,and Predator drones to drill them, and they are the Taliban chieftans, and the run away.

I've confronted pitt bulls, dobermans and German shepherds, including pot-plot guarding ones in NorCal.. My son was bitten by a pitt-bull. Not me. I make them back off. I don't need chemical spray gun. I just let them know, "You really don't want to mess with me. You might injure me, but you are dead. Is that what you want?" I mean, I love dogs. But if they think they can attack me, I set them straight. I mostly tell them, "I'm just passing through, give me passage, but if you want to fight over it, i'll take you down. I don't want to, I just want to go through, let me pass it's not worth you dying for." And they get it. Dogs are cool.

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when i was bike shopping last year it came down between the pinarello dogma, cervelo s3, and the caad9-6. in the end i ended up picking the caad9 because its the best all time.
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when i was bike shopping last year it came down between the pinarello dogma, cervelo s3, and the caad9-6. in the end i ended up picking the caad9 because its the best all time.
That's like saying you could have chosen a Porsche, Aston Martin and a Dodge, and you chose the Dodge.
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That's like saying you could have chosen a Porsche, Aston Martin and a Dodge, and you chose the Dodge.
Dodge Viper!!!!
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OP sai his/her CAAD9 was not comfortable. Why not?

I have a Cervelo RS, , Mavic Kysrium Elites. Riding in winds gusting to 50 mph today, it was really as comfortable as I could imagine, even though i had to grip tight. Lots of really crappy surfaces.

I've done steel/Record, alu/Utegra. This is Cervo/Red is really nice. I'd kinda like to try Di2. I'm not unhappy, at all, with SRAM, but I've done a lot of Shimzo, bikes and fishing, and they do make cool, smooth stuff.
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Originally Posted by NathanC
That's like saying you could have chosen a Porsche, Aston Martin and a Dodge, and you chose the Dodge.
lol.

Don't know about overrated but geez you'd think they were God's gift of alloy frames.

There were plenty of top quality aluminium frames about. It's what most of us were riding before Carbon.

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