25 lb vs 16 lb road bike
04-06-10 | 01:58 PM
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Get a lighter bike and ride a tiny bit faster. There is no reason to constrain speed as a parameter. It makes no sense to get a heavier bike for this purpose. You "choose" a heavier bike because it's cheaper or it needs to be heavier for its purpose (eg, touring).
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04-06-10 | 02:07 PM
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A question - does adding some structure to your workouts produce benefits, or do you need to go in whole hog?
04-06-10 | 02:08 PM
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Funny! But seriously, the concept of adding weight to train for a race probably isn't a good idea. From what I understand about high performance intensity, a body's tolerance for pain during a max performance is regulated by the brain, and the brain is programmed by repetition. You don't want to give the brain any reason to have to recalculate as you're demanding max performance. Weight around ankles (or in a backpack), would change the calculation of all the subtle nerve impulses which feed to the brain. The same would apply to the training bike used, would it not? In other words, training on a 26 lb bike would not be the best idea if your race bike is 14 lbs. Perhaps a few lbs won't make much of a difference, but a 10 lb weight change might be enough for the brain to stumble. Any merit to this theory?
04-06-10 | 02:14 PM
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There's riding so you can eat a whole pizza, and then there's race training.
04-06-10 | 02:17 PM
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I think yes (some structure) if you're smart about it. Read up on the different systems that are at play on a bicycle and what your body does while cycling, then decide what you want to improve. Add some intervals to target those areas, give yourself plenty of rest, and ride consistently, and I'd be willing to be that you'll see some pretty nice improvements in short order.
04-06-10 | 02:19 PM
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Again.
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"However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
04-06-10 | 02:22 PM
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04-06-10 | 02:32 PM
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04-06-10 | 02:40 PM
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04-06-10 | 03:13 PM
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You gonna eat that?
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No, just mostly with umd.
We've had run-ins before. From my side, I'm not very experienced in the performance side of cycling. From umd's side, he likes to poke abrupt jabs my way instead of, you know, conversing.
We've had run-ins before. From my side, I'm not very experienced in the performance side of cycling. From umd's side, he likes to poke abrupt jabs my way instead of, you know, conversing.
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I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
04-06-10 | 03:19 PM
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Well, you kinda set yourself up for that.
04-06-10 | 03:31 PM
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Well, fine then. I'll just leave you yourselves.
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I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.
Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
04-06-10 | 04:03 PM
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For reasonable/realistic differences in the weights of bicycles, you can get a "better" work out by going a little bit faster rather than choosing to use a heavier bike. For the same power output, realistic differences in weight (for example, 10lbs) yield small differences in speed.
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04-06-10 | 05:02 PM
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Well, now that is a whole different issue. Here is an exercise routine for you to help loose a few pounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e6a3omGJmc
Get some purple cycling shorts to really make it hurt!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e6a3omGJmc
Get some purple cycling shorts to really make it hurt!
lol!! finally got a chance to watch it. The nice thing is I'll have the added benefit of clean teeth!
04-06-10 | 05:03 PM
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04-06-10 | 06:30 PM
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Again, another thread ruined and off topic due to endless bickering. May I suggest the use of the ignore feature? My apologies to the OP.
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