Chorus or Super Record
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Chorus or Super Record
Now I know this sounds like a simple question to answer, and that the answer is to get Super Record, but please read through the post first, as I am more concerned about durability and long term use than light weightness, sine both units are s light.
Basically, I am trying to choose weather to have my bike equipped with the Super Record groupset, or with the Chorus groupset. Currently the bike has the Chorus 10 speed on it, from 08, however for around $1500 more I can have the shop replace everything with the new Super Record groupset. Cost is not an issue here at all, BUT I want to make sure I am getting what is best for me. Yes, I know the Super Record is lighter, and looks freaking awesome, but as far as durability goes, is the Chorus actually more durable than the Super Record?
I know the titanium cogs of the super record wear faster, but besides that, is everything else built to last more than the Chorus. I keep hearing conflicting stories. Some of the workers at the bike shop said with Chorus you get as much performance as you can get out of the Campagnolo stuff before you start getting into parts that wear fast. With other websites etc, all they do is talk about how much time and effort went into the new Super Record stuff to make it last an extremely long amount of time.
I honestly want the Super Record stuff, but I don't want to get it if it is something that is made for race specific use only (Like drag racing cars, and how you rebuild some of their engines so often). I want the performance and looks, however I want the parts to last on the bike for me.
Is Chorus or Super Record the way to go for me?
Thanks for the help guys.
Basically, I am trying to choose weather to have my bike equipped with the Super Record groupset, or with the Chorus groupset. Currently the bike has the Chorus 10 speed on it, from 08, however for around $1500 more I can have the shop replace everything with the new Super Record groupset. Cost is not an issue here at all, BUT I want to make sure I am getting what is best for me. Yes, I know the Super Record is lighter, and looks freaking awesome, but as far as durability goes, is the Chorus actually more durable than the Super Record?
I know the titanium cogs of the super record wear faster, but besides that, is everything else built to last more than the Chorus. I keep hearing conflicting stories. Some of the workers at the bike shop said with Chorus you get as much performance as you can get out of the Campagnolo stuff before you start getting into parts that wear fast. With other websites etc, all they do is talk about how much time and effort went into the new Super Record stuff to make it last an extremely long amount of time.
I honestly want the Super Record stuff, but I don't want to get it if it is something that is made for race specific use only (Like drag racing cars, and how you rebuild some of their engines so often). I want the performance and looks, however I want the parts to last on the bike for me.
Is Chorus or Super Record the way to go for me?
Thanks for the help guys.
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So is the current shifting broken?
Or you just have to spend $$?
Or you just have to spend $$?
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Super Record
Super Record
Chorus sounds good for you.
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Sounds like you want Super Record. I agree with the other posts about using a Chorus cassette for durability. I think the Super Record will be as durable as Chorus. I've had 2 bikes with Chorus 10, one has 43k miles and the other 22k miles. I've just replaced the usual stuff, cassettes, chains and brake pads. Big chainring on the 43k mile bike. I'm pretty sure SR would last as long, but even if it's 10% less you'd still get > 30k miles out of it. And I keep my bikes a long time, so you'd probably upgrade sooner than you'd see any durability problems?
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There is only one part that may actually lasts longer and that is the BB bearings. The CULT bearings are unlike any other ceramic bearing used on bikes and only require oil for lubrication. If you buy Chorus and wear out the bearings, they can be replaced with SR bearings, later.
There is also one ceramic ball bearing on the lower jockey pulley, compared to Record that has two ceramic bushings and Chorus that has two standard bronze bushings. The ceramics are intended to reduce friction more than increase life.
The SR parts cost a lot more and shave very few grams from the total weight. Chorus is a far better deal. You can buy the whole group for about $1100 from Ribble. The SR group costs $1960. It's not worth $860 more. The Record group isn't worth over $500 more, either. It used to be more like $300 more, which was tolerable.
There is no reason you should have to accept all SR parts; you can mix and match as you please. I never buy anything but Chorus cassettes because they cost about 1/3 as much as SR and last twice as long.
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/groups..._GS&type=RIBMO
https://www.shinybikes.com/bike/Groupsets/
There is also one ceramic ball bearing on the lower jockey pulley, compared to Record that has two ceramic bushings and Chorus that has two standard bronze bushings. The ceramics are intended to reduce friction more than increase life.
The SR parts cost a lot more and shave very few grams from the total weight. Chorus is a far better deal. You can buy the whole group for about $1100 from Ribble. The SR group costs $1960. It's not worth $860 more. The Record group isn't worth over $500 more, either. It used to be more like $300 more, which was tolerable.
There is no reason you should have to accept all SR parts; you can mix and match as you please. I never buy anything but Chorus cassettes because they cost about 1/3 as much as SR and last twice as long.
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/groups..._GS&type=RIBMO
https://www.shinybikes.com/bike/Groupsets/
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There is only one part that may actually lasts longer and that is the BB bearings. The CULT bearings are unlike any other ceramic bearing used on bikes and only require oil for lubrication. If you buy Chorus and wear out the bearings, they can be replaced with SR bearings, later.
There is also one ceramic ball bearing on the lower jockey pulley, compared to Record that has two ceramic bushings and Chorus that has two standard bronze bushings. The ceramics are intended to reduce friction more than increase life.
The SR parts cost a lot more and shave very few grams from the total weight. Chorus is a far better deal. You can buy the whole group for about $1100 from Ribble. The SR group costs $1960. It's not worth $860 more. The Record group isn't worth over $500 more, either. It used to be more like $300 more, which was tolerable.
There is no reason you should have to accept all SR parts; you can mix and match as you please. I never buy anything but Chorus cassettes because they cost about 1/3 as much as SR and last twice as long.
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/groups..._GS&type=RIBMO
https://www.shinybikes.com/bike/Groupsets/
There is also one ceramic ball bearing on the lower jockey pulley, compared to Record that has two ceramic bushings and Chorus that has two standard bronze bushings. The ceramics are intended to reduce friction more than increase life.
The SR parts cost a lot more and shave very few grams from the total weight. Chorus is a far better deal. You can buy the whole group for about $1100 from Ribble. The SR group costs $1960. It's not worth $860 more. The Record group isn't worth over $500 more, either. It used to be more like $300 more, which was tolerable.
There is no reason you should have to accept all SR parts; you can mix and match as you please. I never buy anything but Chorus cassettes because they cost about 1/3 as much as SR and last twice as long.
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/groups..._GS&type=RIBMO
https://www.shinybikes.com/bike/Groupsets/
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Sounds like you want Super Record. I agree with the other posts about using a Chorus cassette for durability. I think the Super Record will be as durable as Chorus. I've had 2 bikes with Chorus 10, one has 43k miles and the other 22k miles. I've just replaced the usual stuff, cassettes, chains and brake pads. Big chainring on the 43k mile bike. I'm pretty sure SR would last as long, but even if it's 10% less you'd still get > 30k miles out of it. And I keep my bikes a long time, so you'd probably upgrade sooner than you'd see any durability problems?
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One question...if I switch to 11 Chorus cassette, do I also need to switch to 11 Chorus chain and 11 Chorus Chainset? Or, will the SR 11 chain and 11 crankset work with the 11 Chorus cassette? Just want to make sure before I make things final. I'm about to go over there now. Thanks everyone. I'll post up pics when I have the bike.
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If both Campy 11's I can't ANY reason why they'd not mesh together just nicely. Inquire with your shop to double check before ordering, but I'd be gobsmacked to find they didn't roll together.
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One question...if I switch to 11 Chorus cassette, do I also need to switch to 11 Chorus chain and 11 Chorus Chainset? Or, will the SR 11 chain and 11 crankset work with the 11 Chorus cassette? Just want to make sure before I make things final. I'm about to go over there now. Thanks everyone. I'll post up pics when I have the bike.






