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Anyone using their Garmin 705 map out a route?

Old 06-13-10, 12:09 PM
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Anyone using their Garmin 705 to map out a route?

I am using Garmin's Mapsource to create a route for my rides. I draw the route as carefully as possible and then when I look at the turn-by-turn directions it throws in a few places where it tells me to make a U-Turn for no apparent reason.

Anyone else experience this? I have been sending emails to Garmin and so far their advice hasn't worked.

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Hello I am trying too but I am having lots of trouble. I do not know if it is because I mistakenly bought it from a European storem and there can't seem to get it to talk to my 'puter. or if it is just me.

I tried to use today to navigate a route from the history but it seemed to want to take me in the reverse direction.
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I had a problem for a while but did the following to correct with help from BF. Turn off the auto re-calculate setting on your 705 and upload TCX files (training courses) and not GPX. Are you sure your mapping website is not drawing in u-turns extraneously? View your map closely under magnification to verify. If not, turning off auto re-calculate may correct this issue. I use https://www.bikeroutetoaster.com to create my maps. This site although simplistic looking has some great features. It has all the usual features like elevation, distance, and cue sheets. It also can estimate your travel time based on custom information you enter about average speed and climbing ability. Once dialed in it is amazingly accurate even on trips 50 or 75 miles long. It will also allow you to ride against your virtual partner. It can use two mapping engines, Google Maps and OpenStreetMaps. Google maps is great for street traval but is less likely to have MUP information when using the automapping feature on this website. Another feature of this website is the ability to map to the side of the road. This is useful on travel where a street is used more than once. This can confuse your GPS. It will not know if you are coming or going. This may also be the reason for your misterious u-turns. You can also change a track point into a course point easily. This allows you to receive notifications on your GPS when you have reached this point. Once your map is created you can upload a KML file to Google Earth and fly your map virtually. Awesomeness if you have never rode the area and want an idea of what you will encounter.


With this site you can make your map public to share with others but there is no way to search for public maps. You must be given the URL address. For this I use other websites such as https://www.ridewithgps.com/ and https://www.mapmyride.com/

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I haven't seen this in routes I create (using Garmin RoadTrip, not MapSource). However, I find that if my route contains a stretch of road where I'm going in one direction at one leg and later on I'm on the same road going the opposite way, my Edge often gets confused about how far along in the route I am and tells me to make U-turns. The only effective workaround I've found is to break it up into separate routes that don't overlap.

BTW, for Mac OS X users, Garmin RoadTrip has a bug where it'll insert a string of non-Roman characters for map locations where it can't find a road name. When you download such a route to your Edge, it won't be able to display the route. One workaround is to manually edit the route to delete the non-Roman characters. An unpublicized alternative is to use Garmin BaseCamp (a free download) instead of RoadTrip. Garmin tech support says this is the recommended "fix" and there are no plans to release an updated RoadTrip that fixes this bug. You won't find this information on the Garmin website, and their more junior support staff don't know about this recommended solution.
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Originally Posted by lpolliard
I had a problem for a while but did the following to correct with help from BF. Turn off the auto re-calculate setting on your 705 and upload TCX files (training courses) and not GPX. Are you sure your mapping website is not drawing in u-turns extraneously? View your map closely under magnification to verify. If not, turning off auto re-calculate may correct this issue. I use https://www.bikeroutetoaster.com to create my maps. This site although simplistic looking has some great features. It has all the usual features like elevation, distance, and cue sheets. It also can estimate your travel time based on custom information you enter about average speed and climbing ability. Once dialed in it is amazingly accurate even on trips 50 or 75 miles long. It will also allow you to ride against your virtual partner. It can use two mapping engines, Google Maps and OpenStreetMaps. Google maps is great for street traval but is less likely to have MUP information when using the automapping feature on this website. Another feature of this website is the ability to map to the side of the road. This is useful on travel where a street is used more than once. This can confuse your GPS. It will not know if you are coming or going. This may also be the reason for your misterious u-turns. You can also change a track point into a course point easily. This allows you to receive notifications on your GPS when you have reached this point. Once your map is created you can upload a KML file to Google Earth and fly your map virtually. Awesomeness if you have never rode the area and want an idea of what you will encounter.


With this site you can make your map public to share with others but their is no way to search for public maps. You must be given the URL address. For this I use other websites such as https://www.ridewithgps.com/ and https://www.mapmyride.com/
Thanks this is very helpful. I am using Mapsource which came with the Garmin software. I do not like it. It will not provide a satellite view as does Bike Route Toaster so I can not see if the street has bike lanes. You are probably right that it is the Mapsource software causing the problem but I haven't any success uploading routes created in Bike Route Toaster and getting them to work. I created a GPX file and placed it in a folder for the 705 but the 705 wouldn't read it.

Can you or someone else tell me how I can create a route with either Bike Route Toaster or Ride with GPS and get it to work with my 705?

Thanks,
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Thanks, this might have solved my issue. I had my 705 on auto-recalculate which may have caused the U-turn problem. The thread also explained how to download a file and upload it into my 705. Now I just need to make it work.
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+1 on bikeroute toaster.
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It is amazing to me just how poor the Garmin 705 manual is. I'm relying on BF and Youtube to figure out everthing.
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I just map a ride using my 705 and it has me on streets that I did not take instead of the bike path.

https://connect.garmin.com/activity/36753289

I don't understand how bike software/maps don't include bike paths?
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thanks here too. I'll try the file change and turing of the auto calculate. currently I am using a good oldfashioned paper map to figure out a route then make que sheet. then I head off with my $400 odometer so I can tell what time it is.
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