Caad10
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#27
fuggitivo solitario

Joined: Jun 2009
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From: Northern NJ
Nationality is usually far down on my list of qualitifactions. But the combo of being made in the usa and the fact that it was a highly acclaimed high quality bike almost has me wanting to go pick up a CAAD9-1 or something =/
BB30 =/ means no pure Shimano drivetrain, blah. I know spec sheet wise BB30 certainly sounds impressive, realistically I've not been convinced.
BB30 =/ means no pure Shimano drivetrain, blah. I know spec sheet wise BB30 certainly sounds impressive, realistically I've not been convinced.
also, as for the idiots posting things such as government contracts & stuff
#28
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Joined: Apr 2008
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Overall I like the 09 paint job the best. And yes I'd also like to see other color schemes if anyone finds any.
#29
World's slowest cyclist.
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: Londonderry, NH
Bikes: Cannondale CAAD5 and Cannondale Rush
Looks like they've cheaped out on the welds. My CAAD5 and Rush welds are all ground smooth and cleaned up. The photos here look to me like they just left the bare weld bead without grinding it smooth. Bummer, that's one of the things I always liked about C'dale's AL frames: attention to detail.
I guess this is what Dorel brings to the party.
I guess this is what Dorel brings to the party.
#30
Looks like they've cheaped out on the welds. My CAAD5 and Rush welds are all ground smooth and cleaned up. The photos here look to me like they just left the bare weld bead without grinding it smooth. Bummer, that's one of the things I always liked about C'dale's AL frames: attention to detail.
I guess this is what Dorel brings to the party.
I guess this is what Dorel brings to the party.
"This bike numba 10!"
#33
pan y agua

Joined: Aug 2005
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From: Jacksonville
Bikes: Willier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Calfee Dragonfly tandem, Calfee Adventure tandem; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Motebecanne Phantom Cross; Schwinn Paramount Track bike
Not sure I'd want an Aluminum frame 200g lighter than a CAAD 9. You got to be getting into beer can territory on some parts of that frame to get it 200g lighter.
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#34
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Looks like they've cheaped out on the welds. My CAAD5 and Rush welds are all ground smooth and cleaned up. The photos here look to me like they just left the bare weld bead without grinding it smooth. Bummer, that's one of the things I always liked about C'dale's AL frames: attention to detail.
If you grind and fill welds, you can make a bad weld look good.
If you leave the weld beads alone, it will expose a crap weld.
Co-Motion for example doesn't grind the welds on their aluminum bikes, and they are known for the quality of their welding.
So not grinding the welds, may not be as pleasing to your eye, but it may also make for a better frame.
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#35
There's a pretty good argumnet to be made that leaving the weld beads alone, and not grinding them smooth causes attention to detail.
If you grind and fill welds, you can make a bad weld look good.
If you leave the weld beads alone, it will expose a crap weld.
Co-Motion for example doesn't grind the welds on their aluminum bikes, and they are known for the quality of their welding.
So not grinding the welds, may not be as pleasing to your eye, but it may also make for a better frame.
If you grind and fill welds, you can make a bad weld look good.
If you leave the weld beads alone, it will expose a crap weld.
Co-Motion for example doesn't grind the welds on their aluminum bikes, and they are known for the quality of their welding.
So not grinding the welds, may not be as pleasing to your eye, but it may also make for a better frame.
The fact that people are actually getting so worked up about this bike is almost sad. Go outside and play people!
#37
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Joined: May 2010
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From: Antioch, IL
Bikes: 2013 Synapse 4
Exactly! If these fanboys actually saw what the C'dale welds looked like from the inside, they'd all shut up. They look like someone just shoved filler between the tubes. They are ugly and full of voids. They grind them to hide the sh*t welds that 'uh-mericans' did at the factory!
The fact that people are actually getting so worked up about this bike is almost sad. Go outside and play people!
The fact that people are actually getting so worked up about this bike is almost sad. Go outside and play people!
#39
There's a pretty good argumnet to be made that leaving the weld beads alone, and not grinding them smooth causes attention to detail.
If you grind and fill welds, you can make a bad weld look good.
If you leave the weld beads alone, it will expose a crap weld.
Co-Motion for example doesn't grind the welds on their aluminum bikes, and they are known for the quality of their welding.
So not grinding the welds, may not be as pleasing to your eye, but it may also make for a better frame.
If you grind and fill welds, you can make a bad weld look good.
If you leave the weld beads alone, it will expose a crap weld.
Co-Motion for example doesn't grind the welds on their aluminum bikes, and they are known for the quality of their welding.
So not grinding the welds, may not be as pleasing to your eye, but it may also make for a better frame.
#40
Jet Jockey
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,941
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From: St. Paul, MN
Bikes: Cannondale CAAD9, Ritchey Breakaway Cross, Nashbar X-frame bike, Bike Friday Haul-a-Day, Surly Pugsley.
Welds at the headtube junctions look kind of chunky now, compared with my CAAD9.
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#41
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From: Someplace trying to figure it out
Bikes: Cannondale EVO, CAAD9, Giant cross bike.
#42
2:20 should clear up your little weld arguments. remember, this is the way they USED TO BE made. say bye bye to attention to detail. get the 9's while you can!
another video to remember a great american company that once was.
another video to remember a great american company that once was.
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#45
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Joined: Apr 2010
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From: Colorado
Most of that weight looks to be shaved by using smaller tubing in the rear triangle. I'm sure plenty of people will appreciate a half pound lighter frame. Cannondale will have no trouble selling boat loads of these as usual.
#46
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Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 356
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From: Wallingford,CT
Bikes: 2010 Cannondale CAAD9-5
Not necessarily, it all comes down to the geometry of the cross section of tubing. Not to mention w/ hydro-forming you can do some really interesting things to improve strength in specific areas. If you look at the TT it's not round. It has a somewhat boxed shape to it.
#47
i just find it really cool that their are companies that can do everything in house, customization. a reason why bill holland is so big around my area. a reason why the new project cali is so damn awesome! all the R&D in house, carbon layups by hand in house, limited because they take time to produce.
#49
Watching that video is very sad. Cannondale was once a great company and their bikes will be missed. The USA made CAAD9 at least let them go out with a bang. The new bike looks like a cookie-cutter Chinese made POS, like most of the other brands who contract production out of China/Taiwan sweatshops.
#50
Watching that video is very sad. Cannondale was once a great company and their bikes will be missed. The USA made CAAD9 at least let them go out with a bang. The new bike looks like a cookie-cutter Chinese made POS, like most of the other brands who contract production out of China/Taiwan sweatshops.
The fact that the bike was handmade in the good ol' USA made it special.
The CAAD10 looks hideous.
R.I.P CAAD R.I.P Cannondale
PS: **** Dorel




