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Old 06-30-10, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mmmdonuts
I can figure out what's going on by watching. They often call out the wrong rider or make mistakes when they analyze crashes or other action.

That said, on their worst days Phil and Paul are better than most US based talking heads can be on their best days.
Yeah - I see I'm in the minority on this, but I'm am absolutely riveted & in awe that they can talk seamlessly for hours on end and hold my attention. Yes they are repetitive - I've watched every stage of TDF since 2000 and have heard them call a few other races. Given the crappy coverage (Phil/Paul don't have control over) and ongoing technical problems with the video, I'm just amazed.

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And yes - I'm from Maine & we have TV, but I must admit I've never heard of Cycling.Tv. We have these rabbit ear antennas on our TV's that work just fine IMHO - but they say there's this new invention called cable, is that there where I might get a looksy at some Cycling.Tv???
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Skip the tour, just watch this everyday.

https://www.xtranormal.com/watch/5710235/
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It's kind of hard to commentate a bike race. At least in a lot of other sports there is one person who will call the game while the other reminisces, or informs. In cycling both do the "informing". It does seem that Liggett and Sherwin get a lot of things wrong as they ramble on though.

Originally Posted by bmw5nkj
Even though Liggett and Sherwin can get repetitive at times, they still make bike races more exciting and better to watch, especially compared to Bob Roll commentating. He keeps saying "most definitely"...
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Are those guys actually alive? I'm thinking animatronics from the Muppets lab with a pcad random quote generator-type dealie for the narrative.
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I'd put Joe Buck and Tim McCarver up against anyone for pure broadcasting awfulness.
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Originally Posted by scotch
I'd put Joe Buck and Tim McCarver up against anyone for pure broadcasting awfulness.
I agree...
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As long as they stick to cycling, it's not horrible. When Phil was trying his hand at pointing out various aspects of American history during the Tour of California... Well, let's just say he has nothing on a 2nd grader.
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I like Sherwan and Ligget but I kind of grew up listening to them. The only two things that drive me nuts is last year when ever the show started they were sitting so close together it looked like they were ready to make out and they feel the need to put Goerge Hincapi in the position to win every race.
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Where I grew up Phil Liggett was pretty much it...we were just grateful to get the small amount of cycling we did.

Even with his "idiosyncrasies" he still beats the local "experts" we're still subjected to.
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Originally Posted by botto
i bet you're a fan of bobcat goldthwait as well.
Bobcat was funny back in the 80's. The delivery was shrill and unique. Pair him up with a still living Sam Kinison. There's your Dynamic Duo.
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Originally Posted by scotch
I'd put Joe Buck and Tim McCarver up against anyone for pure broadcasting awfulness.
Joe Buck is a great baseball guy. He's unlistenable when commentating on any other sport though.
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Originally Posted by calamarichris
I don't understand at all why everyone loves Bob Roll so much. It's not cute or clever when he persistently refers to the Tour DAY France.
Now see, that amuses me every time he says it. He does it intentionally, obviously.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
Now see, that amuses me every time he says it. He does it intentionally, obviously.
And I keep telling myself that, but it still doesn't make it clever or funny. To me, it's like watching Nicholas Cage in another $#itty movie, or Lady Gaga, or Twilight, or every time some mouth-breather "intentionally" can't tell the difference between "there", "they're", and "their" in here--it's not funny, it's nails on a chalkboard.

I don't want to end up with Pcad and the rest of the cynics who strut around fancying themselves so brilliant by virtue of everyone else's imbecility, but come on.
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Originally Posted by Toddorado
Bobcat was funny back in the 80's. The delivery was shrill and unique. Pair him up with a still living Sam Kinison. There's your Dynamic Duo.
I would have paid to watch them matched in a knife fight to the death, since, despite their being sluggish, unfit, and unskilled, they both hated each other vehemently; other than that, both are, and were, unwatchable.

And if you had to read the above sentence twice, then you have an inkling of an idea of why Paul & Phil stink on ice.
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Originally Posted by calamarichris
And I keep telling myself that, but it still doesn't make it clever or funny. To me, it's like watching Nicholas Cage in another $#itty movie, or Lady Gaga, or Twilight, or every time some mouth-breather "intentionally" can't tell the difference between "there", "they're", and "their" in here--it's not funny, it's nails on a chalkboard.

I don't want to end up with Pcad and the rest of the cynics who strut around fancying themselves so brilliant by virtue of everyone else's imbecility, but come on.
wut? i dont get it
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Originally Posted by calamarichris
I would have paid to watch them matched in a knife fight to the death, since, despite their being sluggish, unfit, and unskilled, they both hated each other vehemently; other than that, both are, and were, unwatchable.

And if you had to read the above sentence twice, then you have an inkling of an idea of why Paul & Phil stink on ice.
That's why they make vanilla and chocolate. Kinison still makes me laugh until whatever I'm drinking comes out of my nose. To stay OT, I don't watch enough cycling to have an opinion on commentators, save the TdF.
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Originally Posted by Radix
Yeah - I see I'm in the minority on this, but I'm am absolutely riveted & in awe that they can talk seamlessly for hours on end and hold my attention.
Majority actually, that's why they commentate everything.

Universal even gets Phil Liggett to commentate triathlons.
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Originally Posted by Radix
Yeah - I see I'm in the minority on this, but I'm am absolutely riveted & in awe that they can talk seamlessly for hours on end and hold my attention. Yes they are repetitive - I've watched every stage of TDF since 2000 and have heard them call a few other races. Given the crappy coverage (Phil/Paul don't have control over) and ongoing technical problems with the video, I'm just amazed.

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And yes - I'm from Maine & we have TV, but I must admit I've never heard of Cycling.Tv. We have these rabbit ear antennas on our TV's that work just fine IMHO - but they say there's this new invention called cable, is that there where I might get a looksy at some Cycling.Tv???
seamlessly?
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They are 10x better than the stupefyingly lame Yankees TV broadcast team.
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But then try watching the Yankees on National TV and see what you get. The commentators on YES are 100% better. But the best in the business around NY is still Walt Clyde Frazier.

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They are 10x better than the stupefyingly lame Yankees TV broadcast team.
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Originally Posted by scotch
I'd put Joe Buck and Tim McCarver up against anyone for pure broadcasting awfulness.
Joe Morgan is the absolute worst broadcaster ever. Then Buck and McCarver
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I don't know about everyone else, but I watch most of my cycling on Universal Sports, it's an NBC channel. the commentators are Steve Schlanger and an ex-racer I never heard of before named Todd Gogulski. I would rather listen to these two than the boys on Versus. I actually learned stuff from the guys on Universal Sports, opposed to listening to Phil admire the Pacific Ocean during the Tour of California.
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I like Phil and Paul. But this sums up every episode of Cycling on Versus:

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I find Phil and Paul soothing, like white noise at bedtime. That new idiot kid they have is so friggin annoying, he destroys the whole Liggett/Sherwin karma. How did that idiot ever get that job? Put me in there, I'll straighten that broadcast right out.
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