To Hand Pump Or CO2....
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I use a Innovations SecondWind its both in one hand pump & CO2 works great.
I don't use the pump at all to get some air into the tube for shape just blow into it.
I don't use the pump at all to get some air into the tube for shape just blow into it.
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I do whatever I do, and of course, that is the right and correct thing to do. It is of no matter what it is that I actually I do. Those are just details, and are of no significance. In contrast, whatever it is that you do is just not the same as, nor anywhere near as fantastic as what I do.
Just know that.
And oddly enough, I feel quite smug and superior in my choice. And, in sharing my choice with all of you.
Any protest just makes me more correct.
Just know that.
And oddly enough, I feel quite smug and superior in my choice. And, in sharing my choice with all of you.
Any protest just makes me more correct.
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Tubes are already silly expensive add the cost of a co2 cartridge to each flat on the road. I have had rides with three flats, no worries with hand pump just patch, pump and go.
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Really, I don't have three flats in a year, but I guess it depends on where you ride. As for as the price of CO2, I get them for about $1.40 each.
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I do whatever I do, and of course, that is the right and correct thing to do. It is of no matter what it is that I actually I do. Those are just details, and are of no significance. In contrast, whatever it is that you do is just not the same as, nor anywhere near as fantastic as what I do.
Just know that.
And oddly enough, I feel quite smug and superior in my choice. And, in sharing my choice with all of you.
Any protest just makes me more correct.
Just know that.
And oddly enough, I feel quite smug and superior in my choice. And, in sharing my choice with all of you.
Any protest just makes me more correct.
Well done, sir.
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both. Co2 in back pocket, mini pump attached to water bottle cage.
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I spent a lot of money on a light weight bike, the cost of Co2 is not a big factor.
The Three Co2's, the chuck, a tube and a patch kit fit in a small bag under the seat
Co2 is faster and I put air in the tires the next morning with a electric pump.
If I was taking a multi-day ride I would carry a pump.
The Three Co2's, the chuck, a tube and a patch kit fit in a small bag under the seat
Co2 is faster and I put air in the tires the next morning with a electric pump.
If I was taking a multi-day ride I would carry a pump.
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I didn't read all the responses, so forgive me if this was covered. I've noticed that if I use a CO2 cartridge, the tire will be a little soft the next day, whereas if I use a hand pump, it stays hard. It makes me wonder if CO2 molecules penetrate the pores of the tire easier than air, which is mostly nitrogen. I also notice that some automobile tire dealers use nitrogen. In any case, I have both but always end up using the hand pump.
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I didn't read all the responses, so forgive me if this was covered. I've noticed that if I use a CO2 cartridge, the tire will be a little soft the next day, whereas if I use a hand pump, it stays hard. It makes me wonder if CO2 molecules penetrate the pores of the tire easier than air, which is mostly nitrogen. I also notice that some automobile tire dealers use nitrogen. In any case, I have both but always end up using the hand pump.
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I was a CO2 hater until I was teaching a flat fix seminar and actually used one. Wow. In the approximately split second it took to inflate a tire, my whole lifetime of sitting by the side of the road looking like I was masturbating while actually only manipulating a mini-pump didn't even have time to flash before my eyes.
But I still don't trust that new-fangled technology, so I compromised with one of those hybrid pumps other people already mentioned--will take a CO2 cartridge, has a built in regulator; is also a mini-pump.
If I'm playing mechanic volunteer on an event ride, I bring a frame pump. As a commuter, running puncture protection tires, I'd feel perfectly comfy with a chuck and a couple of CO2 cartridges.
But I still don't trust that new-fangled technology, so I compromised with one of those hybrid pumps other people already mentioned--will take a CO2 cartridge, has a built in regulator; is also a mini-pump.
If I'm playing mechanic volunteer on an event ride, I bring a frame pump. As a commuter, running puncture protection tires, I'd feel perfectly comfy with a chuck and a couple of CO2 cartridges.
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I do whatever I do, and of course, that is the right and correct thing to do. It is of no matter what it is that I actually I do. Those are just details, and are of no significance. In contrast, whatever it is that you do is just not the same as, nor anywhere near as fantastic as what I do.
Just know that.
And oddly enough, I feel quite smug and superior in my choice. And, in sharing my choice with all of you.
Any protest just makes me more correct.
Just know that.
And oddly enough, I feel quite smug and superior in my choice. And, in sharing my choice with all of you.
Any protest just makes me more correct.
Road bike - inflator with 2 Co2 cartridges, 1 tube, patch kit, boots and allen keys (I only need 4mm and 5mm for most adjustments). All fits in micro saddle bag.
Commuter bike - inflator with 2 Co2 cartridges, 1 tube, patch kit, boots, tools needed (as above) plus front and rear lights with extra batteries. Quick release saddle bag, easy to remove when bike locked so as it (saddle bag) won't get stolen.
Touring bike - pump only with 2 tubes, patch kit, boots, spare nuts and bolts, derailler and brake cable, spokes, spare tire and tools needed. No need to carry CO2 on touring bike as one could easily run out, pump is better.
MTB bike - pump, tube, patch kit, boots, tools needed. Very possible to get multiple flats on mtb bike.
I have spoken.
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