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Old 09-07-10 | 09:30 PM
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Beanz, bro, you should really consider changing your sig. a). it's long, b). it's abrasive and is just an invitation for more attacks..
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Old 09-07-10 | 09:34 PM
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Don't hijack the thread!
Beanz, I thought of you today. I stopped to adjust my helmet and two roadies passing by stopped to see if I was okay
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Old 09-07-10 | 09:42 PM
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Don't hijack the thread!
Alright, alright, alright
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Old 09-07-10 | 09:43 PM
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I use a Innovations SecondWind its both in one hand pump & CO2 works great.
I don't use the pump at all to get some air into the tube for shape just blow into it.
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Old 09-07-10 | 09:46 PM
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Beanz, I thought of you today. I stopped to adjust my helmet and two roadies passing by stopped to see if I was okay
Funny, I thought about you and good sumaritan/pump threads on Saturday's ride. I was on a break when some ugly dude rolls up with a flat tire and asks if I know how to fix a flat, no pump, no spare tube, no patch. For the 10,000th time, I helped another rider.
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Old 09-07-10 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
Funny, I thought about you and good sumaritan/pump threads on Saturday's ride. I was on a break when some ugly dude rolls up with a flat tire and asks if I know how to fix a flat, no pump, no spare tube, no patch. For the 10,000th time, I helped another rider.
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Old 09-07-10 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by midgetmaestro
Air Chuck SL + 2 Co2 cartridges.

Note: I ride out in the country where cell reception is iffy at best.
I too carry the Air Chuck SL and two or sometimes three cartriges. It has always been enough for me.
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Old 09-07-10 | 10:25 PM
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I carry both *shrugs*. If the CO2 fails for some reason, I am not SOL out in the boonies.
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Old 09-07-10 | 10:37 PM
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I do whatever I do, and of course, that is the right and correct thing to do. It is of no matter what it is that I actually I do. Those are just details, and are of no significance. In contrast, whatever it is that you do is just not the same as, nor anywhere near as fantastic as what I do.

Just know that.

And oddly enough, I feel quite smug and superior in my choice. And, in sharing my choice with all of you.

Any protest just makes me more correct.
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Old 09-07-10 | 10:37 PM
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I was at home so I attempted to use the mini hand pump. I got to about 70 psi and my arms were wasted!!
Do men kick sand on you at the beach? If you can't get to 70 psi with a hand pump, then you should exercise more of your body -- try less riding and more push-ups.
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Old 09-07-10 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lanterne Rogue
Do men kick sand on you at the beach? If you can't get to 70 psi with a hand pump, then you should exercise more of your body -- try less riding and more push-ups.
And while you're at it, eat more red meat and get a tatoo!
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Old 09-08-10 | 12:04 AM
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Tubes are already silly expensive add the cost of a co2 cartridge to each flat on the road. I have had rides with three flats, no worries with hand pump just patch, pump and go.
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Old 09-08-10 | 12:25 AM
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Tubes are already silly expensive add the cost of a co2 cartridge to each flat on the road. I have had rides with three flats, no worries with hand pump just patch, pump and go.
Really, I don't have three flats in a year, but I guess it depends on where you ride. As for as the price of CO2, I get them for about $1.40 each.
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Old 09-08-10 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by midgetmaestro
Air Chuck SL + 2 Co2 cartridges.

Note: I ride out in the country where cell reception is iffy at best.

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Old 09-08-10 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Carbon Unit
I too carry the Air Chuck SL and two or sometimes three cartridges. It has always been enough for me.
It also works for me.
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Old 09-08-10 | 06:32 AM
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Tubes are already silly expensive add the cost of a co2 cartridge to each flat on the road. I have had rides with three flats, no worries with hand pump just patch, pump and go.
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Really, I don't have three flats in a year, but I guess it depends on where you ride.
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Old 09-08-10 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DScott
I do whatever I do, and of course, that is the right and correct thing to do. It is of no matter what it is that I actually I do. Those are just details, and are of no significance. In contrast, whatever it is that you do is just not the same as, nor anywhere near as fantastic as what I do.

Just know that.

And oddly enough, I feel quite smug and superior in my choice. And, in sharing my choice with all of you.

Any protest just makes me more correct.
And thus, BF gets completely and totally summarized in 1 post.

Well done, sir.
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Old 09-08-10 | 06:38 AM
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both. Co2 in back pocket, mini pump attached to water bottle cage.
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Old 09-08-10 | 06:48 AM
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I spent a lot of money on a light weight bike, the cost of Co2 is not a big factor.
The Three Co2's, the chuck, a tube and a patch kit fit in a small bag under the seat
Co2 is faster and I put air in the tires the next morning with a electric pump.

If I was taking a multi-day ride I would carry a pump.
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Old 09-08-10 | 07:36 AM
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I didn't read all the responses, so forgive me if this was covered. I've noticed that if I use a CO2 cartridge, the tire will be a little soft the next day, whereas if I use a hand pump, it stays hard. It makes me wonder if CO2 molecules penetrate the pores of the tire easier than air, which is mostly nitrogen. I also notice that some automobile tire dealers use nitrogen. In any case, I have both but always end up using the hand pump.
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Old 09-08-10 | 07:41 AM
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12 gram or 16 gram? Threaded or unthreaded?
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Old 09-08-10 | 07:42 AM
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I didn't read all the responses, so forgive me if this was covered. I've noticed that if I use a CO2 cartridge, the tire will be a little soft the next day, whereas if I use a hand pump, it stays hard. It makes me wonder if CO2 molecules penetrate the pores of the tire easier than air, which is mostly nitrogen. I also notice that some automobile tire dealers use nitrogen. In any case, I have both but always end up using the hand pump.
Butyl tubes pass CO2 a lot faster than air. When you fix a flat with CO2 just let it out when you get home and pump back up with your floor pump.
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Old 09-08-10 | 07:52 AM
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Beanz, I thought of you today. I stopped to adjust my helmet and two roadies passing by stopped to see if I was okay
Jen, don't encourage him ---- he's way toooooooo ooooooold for you!
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Old 09-08-10 | 08:20 AM
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I was a CO2 hater until I was teaching a flat fix seminar and actually used one. Wow. In the approximately split second it took to inflate a tire, my whole lifetime of sitting by the side of the road looking like I was masturbating while actually only manipulating a mini-pump didn't even have time to flash before my eyes.

But I still don't trust that new-fangled technology, so I compromised with one of those hybrid pumps other people already mentioned--will take a CO2 cartridge, has a built in regulator; is also a mini-pump.

If I'm playing mechanic volunteer on an event ride, I bring a frame pump. As a commuter, running puncture protection tires, I'd feel perfectly comfy with a chuck and a couple of CO2 cartridges.
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Old 09-08-10 | 09:07 AM
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I do whatever I do, and of course, that is the right and correct thing to do. It is of no matter what it is that I actually I do. Those are just details, and are of no significance. In contrast, whatever it is that you do is just not the same as, nor anywhere near as fantastic as what I do.

Just know that.

And oddly enough, I feel quite smug and superior in my choice. And, in sharing my choice with all of you.

Any protest just makes me more correct.
You are incorrect. THIS is the correct thing to do:

Road bike - inflator with 2 Co2 cartridges, 1 tube, patch kit, boots and allen keys (I only need 4mm and 5mm for most adjustments). All fits in micro saddle bag.

Commuter bike - inflator with 2 Co2 cartridges, 1 tube, patch kit, boots, tools needed (as above) plus front and rear lights with extra batteries. Quick release saddle bag, easy to remove when bike locked so as it (saddle bag) won't get stolen.

Touring bike - pump only with 2 tubes, patch kit, boots, spare nuts and bolts, derailler and brake cable, spokes, spare tire and tools needed. No need to carry CO2 on touring bike as one could easily run out, pump is better.

MTB bike - pump, tube, patch kit, boots, tools needed. Very possible to get multiple flats on mtb bike.

I have spoken.

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