To Hand Pump Or CO2....
09-08-10 | 09:10 AM
#51
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You are incorrect. THIS is the correct thing to do:
Road bike - inflator with 2 Co2 cartridges, 1 tube, patch kit, boots and allen keys (I only need 4mm and 5mm for most adjustments). All fits in micro saddle bag.
Commuter bike - inflator with 2 Co2 cartridges, 1 tube, patch kit, boots, tools needed (as above) plus front and rear lights with extra batteries. Quick release saddle bag, easy to remove when bike locked so as it (saddle bag) won't get stolen.
Touring bike - pump only with 2 tubes, patch kit, boots, spare nuts and bolts, derailler and brake cable, spokes, spare tire and tools needed. No need to carry CO2 on touring bike as one could easily run out, pump is better.
MTB bike - pump, tube, patch kit, boots, tools needed. Very possible to get multiple flats on mtb bike.
I have spoken.
End thread.
Road bike - inflator with 2 Co2 cartridges, 1 tube, patch kit, boots and allen keys (I only need 4mm and 5mm for most adjustments). All fits in micro saddle bag.
Commuter bike - inflator with 2 Co2 cartridges, 1 tube, patch kit, boots, tools needed (as above) plus front and rear lights with extra batteries. Quick release saddle bag, easy to remove when bike locked so as it (saddle bag) won't get stolen.
Touring bike - pump only with 2 tubes, patch kit, boots, spare nuts and bolts, derailler and brake cable, spokes, spare tire and tools needed. No need to carry CO2 on touring bike as one could easily run out, pump is better.
MTB bike - pump, tube, patch kit, boots, tools needed. Very possible to get multiple flats on mtb bike.
I have spoken.
End thread.
09-08-10 | 09:13 AM
#52
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09-08-10 | 09:30 AM
#53
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For your road bike model up above you forgot tire levers. A lot of good all that stuff does for you if you can't remove or mount your tire. Of course you're going to tell me that you have 30 years of experience rolling a tire onto the rim and haven't met one yet you couldn't do by hand.
09-08-10 | 09:42 AM
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For your road bike model up above you forgot tire levers. A lot of good all that stuff does for you if you can't remove or mount your tire. Of course you're going to tell me that you have 30 years of experience rolling a tire onto the rim and haven't met one yet you couldn't do by hand.
But yes, *I* do not need tire levers.
I have spoken.
09-08-10 | 09:57 AM
#55
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Bikes: Trek Domane 7 SLR // Cervelo R3T // Trek Madone 4.5 // Trek 6000D //Peugeot P6 (1986)//Motobecane Fantom Cross Team Titanium Cyclocross
I have only carried an air chuck SL and 2 CO2 cartridges. Late last week had another flat and when I went to use the CO2, the seals came out of the air chuck rendering it useless.
Luckly for me, someone stop with a Topeak RoadMorph, which worked like a charm. Needless to say, I just ordered one.
Luckly for me, someone stop with a Topeak RoadMorph, which worked like a charm. Needless to say, I just ordered one.
09-08-10 | 10:03 AM
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why don't you luddites just ride on wooden wheels?
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09-08-10 | 01:24 PM
#57
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Hand pumps are reliable but not 100%. The same with CO2.
I agree with a few others here that carrying a mini-pump at back up is a good idea if you know you will be out in the middle of nowhere for a long time.
But for half day rides in a civilized area, CO2 is the most efficient. I carry three cartridges. Since I usually get about 3-4 flats a year, the cost of cartridges is moot. In a forum with members who don’t scoff at spending $3k+ on a road bike, the cost of a CO2 cartridges is chump change. I’ve never had CO2’s fail on me. Since my Air chuck can be started and stopped with a loaded CO2, running out of CO2 is not a big risk factor. Thus, I don’t see the need to be carrying around a hand pump.
In any case, use what makes you feel comfortable.
I agree with a few others here that carrying a mini-pump at back up is a good idea if you know you will be out in the middle of nowhere for a long time.
But for half day rides in a civilized area, CO2 is the most efficient. I carry three cartridges. Since I usually get about 3-4 flats a year, the cost of cartridges is moot. In a forum with members who don’t scoff at spending $3k+ on a road bike, the cost of a CO2 cartridges is chump change. I’ve never had CO2’s fail on me. Since my Air chuck can be started and stopped with a loaded CO2, running out of CO2 is not a big risk factor. Thus, I don’t see the need to be carrying around a hand pump.
In any case, use what makes you feel comfortable.
09-08-10 | 01:58 PM
#58
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From: Burbank, CA
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C02 all the way. Use the ones that give you the option of spraying like this instead of instant fill when you place them on the nipple and no need for any bulky pumps and wasting energy.
09-08-10 | 06:43 PM
#59
"Chooch"
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From: Prairieville, Louisiana
Bikes: Late 1990s Ciocc Titan
If you ride a vintage steel "Italian stallion", a color-coordinated frame-fit Silca Impero is a must if you want to maintain that "Classic Era" look. (You can always carry the CO2 inflator in your bag/jersey pocket.)
09-08-10 | 07:28 PM
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Frame pump on the bikes it fits on. CO2 when I'm riding the one where it doesn't.
And TWO SPARE TUBES. Always.
And TWO SPARE TUBES. Always.
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