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fizzle 06-20-16 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Hapsmo911 (Post 18858562)
So I need some opinions from the Aluminati. I had a Caad10 in 2012. Wrecked the frame and replaced with, at the time, a new 2011 SS, the old frame style. I loved my Caad I rode that 2x as much as my EVO HM. I was thinking of replacing the 2011 SS with another Caad. My dealer has new 2015 Caad10 3's for $1500. My problem is, I am not sure if I should just get the Caad12? Either way I would be replacing the group, wheels and contact points. I would then put the take offs on th SS and sell it for as close to what im going to pay for the Caad. The reviews on the 12 are glowing, but they were for the Caad10 as well. What does the Aluminati say? Caad10 or Caad12? Is the Caad12 that much better?

Caad 12= straight bladed fork. Caad 12 wins!!! For a couple hundred more you get a caad12 105, Swap the take offs, sell SS w 105 for couple hundred less, well worth the money IMO but it's up to you.
In all honesty go for the color you like, performance differences are very slight if any at all, can't go wrong either way. Get the 12 you only live once.

Wested 06-20-16 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Hapsmo911 (Post 18858562)
My dealer has new 2015 Caad10 3's for $1500. My problem is, I am not sure if I should just get the Caad12? Either way I would be replacing the group, wheels and contact points. I would then put the take offs on th SS and sell it for as close to what im going to pay for the Caad. The reviews on the 12 are glowing, but they were for the Caad10 as well. What does the Aluminati say? Caad10 or Caad12? Is the Caad12 that much better?

Look at it this way: For the same price you can get a 105 CAAD12. So the conversation is more about whether you want ultegra or 105—a discussion comprising many hundreds of threads on this forum. If you're replacing the components anyway, then I see no reason to get a CAAD10. The 10 is a wonderful bike, but the 12 is a little bit better. Lighter, stiffer, more comfortable. Of course, I haven't been able to notice any difference, but others claim to be able to. If the money is the same, why not go for the more technologically advanced frame?

Hapsmo911 06-20-16 04:08 PM

Well my LBS threw me a curve ball. Offered me a 2015 EVO HM frameset in flat black and green electric only for $1500....

So I passed on the HM. Went and looked at the Caad12 105. The pictures online do not do the bike justice. I love the flat black and grey. It looks white on the Cannondale site... Going back to pick it up tonight.

Bumnah 06-20-16 05:15 PM

That R3000si is gorgeous!

Hapsmo911 06-20-16 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by fizzle (Post 18859009)
Caad 12= straight bladed fork. Caad 12 wins!!! For a couple hundred more you get a caad12 105, Swap the take offs, sell SS w 105 for couple hundred less, well worth the money IMO but it's up to you.
In all honesty go for the color you like, performance differences are very slight if any at all, can't go wrong either way. Get the 12 you only live once.

I liked the colors a lot more when I saw them in person. I had the Black and White Caad10 this one is pretty close.


Originally Posted by Wested (Post 18859061)
Look at it this way: For the same price you can get a 105 CAAD12. So the conversation is more about whether you want ultegra or 105—a discussion comprising many hundreds of threads on this forum. If you're replacing the components anyway, then I see no reason to get a CAAD10. The 10 is a wonderful bike, but the 12 is a little bit better. Lighter, stiffer, more comfortable. Of course, I haven't been able to notice any difference, but others claim to be able to. If the money is the same, why not go for the more technologically advanced frame?

Both of you with solid advice! I went with the Caad12 and most likely going to get the EVO HM lol. Now I just need to sell my other two bikes.....

Back in the Cult!!

Wested 06-20-16 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Hapsmo911 (Post 18859851)
Back in the Cult!!

Excellent. Your secret decoder ring is in the mail.

macca33 06-20-16 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by Hapsmo911 (Post 18858562)
So I need some opinions from the Aluminati. I had a Caad10 in 2012. Wrecked the frame and replaced with, at the time, a new 2011 SS, the old frame style. I loved my Caad I rode that 2x as much as my EVO HM. I was thinking of replacing the 2011 SS with another Caad. My dealer has new 2015 Caad10 3's for $1500. My problem is, I am not sure if I should just get the Caad12? Either way I would be replacing the group, wheels and contact points. I would then put the take offs on th SS and sell it for as close to what im going to pay for the Caad. The reviews on the 12 are glowing, but they were for the Caad10 as well. What does the Aluminati say? Caad10 or Caad12? Is the Caad12 that much better?


I'd opt for the CAAD12 if I were in your position.

cheers

EDIT- AND a SS HM!!!

Hapsmo911 06-21-16 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by macca33 (Post 18859924)
I'd opt for the CAAD12 if I were in your position.

cheers

EDIT- AND a SS HM!!!

Yeah I ended up with the Caad12 and looks like another HM. Now need to decide if the Caad gets Campy or Sram to match the HM?!?!

Hapsmo911 06-21-16 08:42 PM

Does anyone know if the new sisl2 109mm spindle will fit into an older si hollowgram? I want to install my old Hollowgrams into the Caad12

Wested 06-22-16 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Hapsmo911 (Post 18861606)
Does anyone know if the new sisl2 109mm spindle will fit into an older si hollowgram? I want to install my old Hollowgrams into the Caad12

I believe they are all backwards compatible. Just make sure you use the 109mm spindle for the wider BB30a standard.

Hapsmo911 06-22-16 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Wested (Post 18862421)
I believe they are all backwards compatible. Just make sure you use the 109mm spindle for the wider BB30a standard.

Thats what I thought, thanks. I reckon I can swap the spindle from the forged crank that came on the 12. Although not sure if there is a noticeable weight difference from the forged crank spindle to the SiSL2 version I can order.

phil_k 06-23-16 06:16 AM

Ugh, second time in a month my CAAD10 has a very loud creaking bottom bracket (BB30 FSA SL-K).
I keep it clean. Got caught in the rain the first time, but the shop regreased everything and I haven't been riding in the rain since. I only weigh 130-135 and I don't have a ton of power. I did a hard race a few days ago and it was fine -- didn't do anything. But the creak came back after a long climbing ride (15%+ climbs, mostly standing), and that is what caused it the last time (plus rain). Does that ring any bells?

Taking it back to the shop, but wondering what people here say. Should I get adapters and go Shimano? I have Ultegra everything else.

Wested 06-23-16 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Hapsmo911 (Post 18863919)
Thats what I thought, thanks. I reckon I can swap the spindle from the forged crank that came on the 12. Although not sure if there is a noticeable weight difference from the forged crank spindle to the SiSL2 version I can order.

I was going to do the same thing on my caad12 once I'm ready to upgrade the cranks, probably to an older SiSL. Let me know how the process works out for you.

Millzy32 06-23-16 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by danejules (Post 18857651)
Here is a throwback that I built up this weekend. Full Dura Ace 7800. Dura Ace 7800 hubs laced to OP's.
Took it out for a 30mi shake down ride yesterday afternoon. Frame rides pretty great for being 15yrs old.
Frame was in like new condition as well as the parts. Going to change out the specialized stem and seat post once
I get my position dialed in. Thinking of using either silver Thomson or Ritchey Classic.

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/...pskj9aai5y.jpg
http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/...psgrcagpgf.jpg

Could you get a silver quill stem? It might look fantastic.

Millzy32 06-23-16 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Hapsmo911 (Post 18859998)
Yeah I ended up with the Caad12 and looks like another HM. Now need to decide if the Caad gets Campy or Sram to match the HM?!?!

Go Sram. If you get a Pinarello you can go Campy.

SpeshulEd 06-23-16 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by phil_k (Post 18864526)
Ugh, second time in a month my CAAD10 has a very loud creaking bottom bracket (BB30 FSA SL-K).
I keep it clean. Got caught in the rain the first time, but the shop regreased everything and I haven't been riding in the rain since. I only weigh 130-135 and I don't have a ton of power. I did a hard race a few days ago and it was fine -- didn't do anything. But the creak came back after a long climbing ride (15%+ climbs, mostly standing), and that is what caused it the last time (plus rain). Does that ring any bells?

Taking it back to the shop, but wondering what people here say. Should I get adapters and go Shimano? I have Ultegra everything else.

When my EVO started creaking, I swapped the BB (mine was a PF30). When I still had a creak a week later, I took it to the shop. The creak was in the crank (Hollogram SL/Spidering) and not the BB. $20 later and no creaks for well over a year now.

TheZip 06-23-16 05:45 PM

My new steed and first road bike. 2015 105 model with all stock components. Please excuse that the pic still has dork disc and reflectors.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...604_195550.jpg

silvercannon10 06-25-16 12:48 AM

ok.. my caad10. stockish other than comfy spider seat and some xr31t wheels from BHS fitted with new vittoria tires. Rival components.

http://i63.tinypic.com/a2yjpu.jpg

fastk9dad 06-25-16 07:10 AM

https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7285/2...48f77cab_z.jpg

My Cannondale @ Cannondale.

HazeT 06-25-16 04:48 PM

No pictures, just questions here... I thought this would be the most knowledgeable crowd to answer.
For 2015 Cannondale had a CAAD10 Race bike equipped with Force-22 groupset that I was told that weighted 16lbs out of the box.
Now, does anyone knows if that is a different frame & fork from the rest of the CAAD10 line or just a better equipment dressing?
Here is a picture of one for reference:
http://www.bicycling.com/sites/bicyc...caad10-809.jpg

O didn't find specifics on its frame to see if it was any different then the rest of the lineup.

TheZip 06-26-16 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by HazeT (Post 18869823)
No pictures, just questions here... I thought this would be the most knowledgeable crowd to answer.
For 2015 Cannondale had a CAAD10 Race bike equipped with Force-22 groupset that I was told that weighted 16lbs out of the box.
Now, does anyone knows if that is a different frame & fork from the rest of the CAAD10 line or just a better equipment dressing?
Here is a picture of one for reference:
http://www.bicycling.com/sites/bicyc...caad10-809.jpg

O didn't find specifics on its frame to see if it was any different then the rest of the lineup.

Same frame. That methodology of thinking derives from the hi modulus carbon vs standard carbon and doesn't apply with aluminum bikes.

Legit question though and I can see where you would think there could be a possible difference. These CAAD frames are pretty dang light. A quick Google search shows 1,150g for a 56cm frame

fizzle 06-26-16 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by fastk9dad (Post 18869003)

Very nice bike, awesome Pic as well!!

HazeT 06-26-16 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by TheZip (Post 18870768)
Same frame. That methodology of thinking derives from the hi modulus carbon vs standard carbon and doesn't apply with aluminum bikes.

Legit question though and I can see where you would think there could be a possible difference. These CAAD frames are pretty dang light. A quick Google search shows 1,150g for a 56cm frame

Thanks... so no 10% more lateral stiff while 10% more vertical compliant on every year model? A few more years of that and carbon frames will be stiffer than diamond and softer than jelly at the same time.

Hapsmo911 06-26-16 06:45 PM

Just ordered Enve post, stem and Etap for the Caad12........

Millzy32 06-27-16 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by TheZip (Post 18870768)
Same frame. That methodology of thinking derives from the hi modulus carbon vs standard carbon and doesn't apply with aluminum bikes.

Legit question though and I can see where you would think there could be a possible difference. These CAAD frames are pretty dang light. A quick Google search shows 1,150g for a 56cm frame

To piggyback off this on a little different topic there is one new thing you can get to lighten up your Caad12 and it only comes on the Black Inc. All the forks are carbon but the Black Inc uses the Hi Mod Carbon from the EVO.


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