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jim dandy 07-17-21 09:32 AM

Two of my Caads …
JD
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6fc0f2719.jpeg
2001 Caad4
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d87adceb.jpeg
2002 Caad5

Digger6255 08-28-21 05:35 AM

I picked up a like new (maybe 5 miles) 2020 CAAD13 Disc last night for $1200. I snapped a quick pic of it in the garage last night when I got home at 11pm from picking it up. Pic sucks but I'll get a better one later today.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5a49a8e8e0.jpg

bruce19 08-28-21 05:45 AM

That's a great bike at a great price. Enjoy.. What's the group?

Digger6255 08-28-21 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by bruce19 (Post 22204317)
That's a great bike at a great price. Enjoy.. What's the group?

Shimano 105. Thanks, I am pretty stoked to get this out later today.

bruce19 08-28-21 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Digger6255 (Post 22204321)
Shimano 105. Thanks, I am pretty stoked to get this out later today.

My CAAD 12 is also 105 and it is really good. I have a GURU Sidero (steel) w/SRAM Red. As far as shifting function goes they are pretty close. Both bikes weigh about 17 lbs 10 oz. Both have Mavic UST (tubeless) and Speedplay Zeros. But, I'm converting my GFs bike to SRAM electronic next season. And, then switching her Ultegra 11 sp mechanical over to my CAAD 12. Looking forward to it.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cdf27a197c.jpg

Digger6255 08-28-21 03:53 PM

I just got back from a quick 10 mile shakedown ride on the new CAAD and the 105 shifts exactly like the Ultegra 6800 on my Ridley. This has a 120 stem and I have a 92 on my Ridley so will probably do the same although I may only want to go to a 100 after a saddle adjustment. My Ridley is a nice bike but after 1 short ride, I can say without a doubt the CAAD13 is much nicer.

Vavida52 12-03-21 05:42 AM

Cad2
 
I turned my CAD2 R300 to a race machine with Dura Ace/Ultegra parts. Loving it. Those CAD frames are simply amazing and timeless.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1c0898ca6f.jpg

Mojo31 12-03-21 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by Digger6255 (Post 22204314)
I picked up a like new (maybe 5 miles) 2020 CAAD13 Disc last night for $1200. I snapped a quick pic of it in the garage last night when I got home at 11pm from picking it up. Pic sucks but I'll get a better one later today.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5a49a8e8e0.jpg

Headers will save you some watts, that's for sure!

Nice pickup.

jim dandy 12-05-21 08:10 PM

The Cult of Caad … continued
 
My other two Caads ….
JD
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c0f395ee8.jpeg
‘98 Caad2 R300
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0bc05dc7e.jpeg
2013 Caad8 Sora7

SoSmellyAir 12-24-21 04:45 PM

Thinking of Joining the Cult of CAAD ...
 
The 105 CAAD13 is available in my size at my LBS in both rim and disc brake versions. I am considering the disc version.

Does anyone here have any firsthand experience on both this bike and a Cannondale Synapse?

Or I can wait patiently for a Canyon Endurace in my size to become available in a few months.

Robert A 12-24-21 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir (Post 22350811)
The 105 CAAD13 is available in my size at my LBS in both rim and disc brake versions. I am considering the disc version.

Does anyone here have any firsthand experience on both this bike and a Cannondale Synapse?

Or I can wait patiently for a Canyon Endurace in my size to become available in a few months.

Not CAAD13, but CAAD12 and the Synapse of the time. My own body geometry works better with the CAAD because of the lower stack height. Me and the Synapse (or any endurance bike) don't jell, but I have shorter longs in relation to the length of my torso.

If you're ordering a CAAD with disc brakes, check the weight. It can be a bit heavy in 105 guise.

masi61 12-24-21 05:07 PM

Just curious: for those Cannondale CAAD owners that have the BB30 frames and use Cannondale Hollowgram cranks: is there any resource for how to mix and match axles in order to run a BB30 / Hollowgram triple road crank? I collected some mountain spacers and several of the longer axles and used a triple Hollowgram spider that takes trekking triple chainrings and the set up should work but getting the bolts to torque without compressing the bearings in a weird way seems mysterious to me. Maybe Cannondale published a PDF manual on this? Thanks for any help.

SoSmellyAir 12-24-21 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Robert A (Post 22350820)
If you're ordering a CAAD with disc brakes, check the weight. It can be a bit heavy in 105 guise.

I plan to upgrade to carbon fiber handlebar, KNOT seat post, and wheels, which will likely run $1,500. That said, it does seem counterintuitive to buy a new bike that is heavier than my current bike.

bruce19 12-25-21 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir (Post 22350811)
The 105 CAAD13 is available in my size at my LBS in both rim and disc brake versions. I am considering the disc version.

Does anyone here have any firsthand experience on both this bike and a Cannondale Synapse?

Or I can wait patiently for a Canyon Endurace in my size to become available in a few months.

My experience is with the CAAD 12 a pic of which I've posted here. I have as 32.5" inseam and I bought a 52 frame which is actually a 54.It's the 105 rim brake version. With Mavic USTs it weighs around 17 lb 11 oz. It's a great bike to ride. I recently looked at Canyon bikes and their sizing leaves me in the middle of S and M. I'm generally unimpressed with the whole S-M-L sizing scheme.

Hwnryd31 12-27-21 02:18 PM

Hi, looking to get a new bike and CAAD13 Disc 105 in Red looks very tempting. I test rode it and it seems like quite a nice bike. One question though,
the hubs on the bike seem to be totally silent, Formula hubs. At the same time I test rode Synapse bike with different wheels but I guess also
Formula hubs as that setup was totally silent as well. I am not sure I like this, I like to have a some "clicking" coming out of the hub when not pedaling,
I think it also helps with pedestrians to notice you coming in behind and such. I wonder what people think about these silent hubs ?

Hwnryd31 12-27-21 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir (Post 22350811)
The 105 CAAD13 is available in my size at my LBS in both rim and disc brake versions. I am considering the disc version.

Does anyone here have any firsthand experience on both this bike and a Cannondale Synapse?

Or I can wait patiently for a Canyon Endurace in my size to become available in a few months.

I only test rode CAAD13 105 Disc next to the Synapse Carbon 105 disc, so no long term experience. I was told the Synapse ran a bit smaller compared to CAAD, so while the CAAD I tested was 54cm
the Synapse was 56cm. I didn't really gel with Synapse. It seemed too upright but also I think it was just slightly big. Not sure if LBS folks just said it ran smaller
because they didn't have 54cm version for me to test or whether there was other issues with me not geling with Synapse. For refeernce when I tested Domane SL5 the 56cm
was a better fir there, as was Cervelo Caledonia. I think CAAD is the one I want, it's cheaper then the others but I enjoyed it best at test ride. I just wish the Formula hubs would make a sound when
cruising, somehow the silence seems to bother me...

SoSmellyAir 12-27-21 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Hwnryd31 (Post 22353223)
I only test rode CAAD13 105 Disc next to the Synapse Carbon 105 disc, so no long term experience. I was told the Synapse ran a bit smaller compared to CAAD, so while the CAAD I tested was 54cm
the Synapse was 56cm. I didn't really gel with Synapse. It seemed too upright but also I think it was just slightly big. Not sure if LBS folks just said it ran smaller
because they didn't have 54cm version for me to test or whether there was other issues with me not geling with Synapse. For refeernce when I tested Domane SL5 the 56cm
was a better fir there, as was Cervelo Caledonia.

Synapse (54): reach = 382 mm, stack = 570 mm, seat tube angle = 73.9*, effective top tube = 547 mm.
CAAD13 (54): reach = 384 mm, stack = 555 mm, seat tube angle = 73.7*, effective top tube = 546 mm.

Stack is the only significant difference between the two, so if you also felt that the Synapse was too big, that sounds like (to me) mostly due to test riding the size 56.


Originally Posted by Hwnryd31 (Post 22353223)
I think CAAD is the one I want, it's cheaper then the others but I enjoyed it best at test ride. I just wish the Formula hubs would make a sound when
cruising, somehow the silence seems to bother me...

The wheels on either 105 Cannondale bike are ripe for an upgrade, so just buy a set with a louder freehub. Most pedestrians are oblivious so if the sole purpose is to alert them, a louder freehub does not do all that much.

Hwnryd31 12-28-21 06:42 AM

[MENTION=530102]SoSmellyAir[/MENTION]m thanks for the info. It sounds like you think the size was simply the issue, and I suspected that as well, oh well,
hard to find these bikes these days elsewhere to test with needed sizes so I can't compare the two adequately enough.

Anyway, the wheels on the bikes as you say might not be best but I was hoping I do not need to go for an upgrade as I'm not a racer,
I just need decent wheels that will work well and, quite frankly, look good enough, which these DT Swiss R470's seem to fit the bill.
It's just the silence of the hubs that makes me second guess them. Maybe it's unnecessary concern in practice and I just need
to get over it. Just wanted to see if anyone had experience with the hubs in these wheels, if they're good enough and the lack of sound is a non-issue.

Leinster 12-28-21 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Hwnryd31 (Post 22353066)
Hi, looking to get a new bike and CAAD13 Disc 105 in Red looks very tempting. I test rode it and it seems like quite a nice bike. One question though,
the hubs on the bike seem to be totally silent, Formula hubs. At the same time I test rode Synapse bike with different wheels but I guess also
Formula hubs as that setup was totally silent as well. I am not sure I like this, I like to have a some "clicking" coming out of the hub when not pedaling,
I think it also helps with pedestrians to notice you coming in behind and such. I wonder what people think about these silent hubs ?

If you prefer noisy hubs, upgrade the wheels is probably the easiest (and funnest) answer. I prefer quieter wheels myself, but each to their own.

For alerting pedestrians, I’d just get a bell. They’re much less surprising than a freehub rattle, and much more what a walker’s ears are in tune to hear. You won’t frighten them, and won’t have to stop pedaling to alert them, so overall you’ll have a more positive interaction wit other trail/MUP users.

SoSmellyAir 12-28-21 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Hwnryd31 (Post 22353609)
I just need decent wheels that will work well and, quite frankly, look good enough, which these DT Swiss R470's seem to fit the bill.

The CAAD13 discs at my LBS (REI) comes with Cannondale RD 2.0 rims laced to Formula hubs, not DT Swiss R470 wheels.

Anyway, 3 days after I discovered its availability, REI has sold out of sizes 51, 54, and 56. So I won't be joining the Cult of CAAD for the foreseeable future.

Hwnryd31 12-28-21 02:52 PM

Yup, it looks like some bikes have RD 2.0 and some R470, I like the look of the latter much better hence hoping I would not need to upgrade from these.

the sci guy 01-06-22 06:46 PM

Ahoy everyone!! Excited to join this thread.
I picked up my dream bike last month - a 2001 R1000 CAAD4. It's almost like new condition, save a decent scrape on the chainstay where there was some obvious chainsuck. But the frame, and the components look almost new. Like, they were almost never ridden. A mix of gorgeous 105 and Ultegra stuff. Here's what it looked like when I got it:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c1f5bbaf45.jpg

Here's my Flickr album with all the pics I took of the condition of everything if you're interested (this is where I'll put all the update pics as well): 2001 Cannondale R1000 CAAD4 Rebuild/Upgrade | Flickr

Anyway, here's my questions...
I plan to strip it all down to the frame and build it back with everything new; BB, headset, groupset...everything. For the major stuff, I'm planning on going with 105 for FD/RD/crank/cassette/brifters. The BB is simple enough to match the crank, but I'm wondering about the headset. It's before the integrated threadless headset time, and I keep coming across the term "Aheadset" - can't tell if that's a brand or a style. Any insight there?
My biggest quandary is wheels. I am looking to spend around $300-400 for a pretty decent set of light wheels (not carbon). But, there are so many options out there I don't even know where to begin looking - so I'm open to suggestions. My first thought was a set of h plus son archetypes. Appreciate any help here!

Thanks!

Oh btw I rebuilt and rode a 1999 R300 for a little while, but sold it last year:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...810dd61dda.jpg

Leinster 01-07-22 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by the sci guy (Post 22364445)
.
I plan to strip it all down to the frame and build it back with everything new; BB, headset, groupset...everything. For the major stuff, I'm planning on going with 105 for FD/RD/crank/cassette/brifters. The BB is simple enough to match the crank, but I'm wondering about the headset. It's before the integrated threadless headset time, and I keep coming across the term "Aheadset" - can't tell if that's a brand or a style. Any insight there?

Aheadset is a brand name, and they invented the threadless headset, like the one seen on your bike.

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/08/orig...bikes-forever/

the sci guy 01-08-22 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Leinster (Post 22365632)
Aheadset is a brand name, and they invented the threadless headset, like the one seen on your bike.

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/08/orig...bikes-forever/

neat story. But basically I can get any external threadless headset it seems, right?

Leinster 01-08-22 09:28 AM

Any threadless headset that’s the right size, yes. I would measure the top tube and fork diameter and make sure if what you’re getting. But yes, a standard threadless will work.

I would say there’s no urgency to replace the headset, unless the existing one doesn’t actually work.


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