no offense, but you sound ignorant, close minded, and bigoted. And I'm someone who would never get a tattoo because I think it's dumb.

exactly, people like fleabiscuit will be extinct soon enough or at least irrelevant in the work force.

Every generation thinks they represent the pinnacle of enlightenment and achievement. Much of the older generation thinks things have gone to hell in a handbasket and think younger employees couldn't have any relevant experience or understanding, many of the younger folks believe anyone past a certain age couldn't possibly keep their knowledge up to date or have any energy. There is no reason to expect this pattern to stop.

I have yet to see a workplace where people didn't make judgments based on appearances. What is negatively perceived in some circles will be positively perceived in others.

exactly. the 18-30 population that is getting tattooed now will be looked upon as out of touch, old geezers soon enough and a new trend we will think is stupid will be the new in thing.

You are probably right about the likes of me. However if you are under the impression that visible tattoos (we're talking neck tats, sleeves, etc.) will not affect a person's employment prospects, I would say that you are delusional. Tattoos are not a recent phenomenon. They have been around for a long time. It is true that tats have become more common in recent years, but visible neck and sleeve tattoos are very far from mainstream America.

Truth be told, I felt sorry for the young man at Jiffy Lubr yesterday with the large lobster (scorpion?)on his neck. I have made some fashion mistakes in my younger years. Ugly clothes and hairstyles that make me chuckle or blush a bit when old pictures are brought out. Thankfully none of my fashion mistakes are plastered across my neck or arm long after the coolness has worn off. If I knew the kid from the oil change place before he made the mistake of disfiguring his neck, I would have warned him or at least advised against it.

It makes me scratch my head when I see so many young people trying to show their "individuality" by blindly following or copying the short-sided ill advised decisions of others.

FWIW, I lol'd.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I am a big fan of lobster and had some awesome lobster last week. Thinking about getting a giant lobster tat across my entire back. It's one of the best seafood dishes of all time. Maybe add some lemon and drawn butter tats to the mix.

Mmmmmmm

Tattoos are the cats

http://fpics.org/picz/cache/192__640...n_tattoo_2.png

Only the kewlest people have them

http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/im...a_forehead.jpg

Granted, it's an extreme example, but does anyone remember David Clinger?

neck tattoos, sleeves- apples, oranges...

and you realize anyone who would get a tattoo on their neck probably wouldnt have better job prospects regardless of the tattoo...?

I'm getting a tattoo of boobies on my back. It's going to be very disturbing.

Tattoos are for idiots.

so lets see yours...

Do him a favor and learn to change your own oil.

I sure didnt mean to start a pissing match here. I was just looking for some care advice and riders with similar concerns. I learned two things from this. Robncircus had some good advice, and fleabiscuit is a dbag. Do you just look for threads that annoy you and then do your best to derail them? If you had nothing positive to say about the subject then why did you? You can poke fun at the Jiffy Lube guy all day. Just not to his face though right? I can't stand Lady Gaga. So when I see a thread that says Lady Gaga is awesome, I probably wont even open it. If only you could have gotten to the Jiffy Lube guy sooner. He probably would have done great things for society.

Hey neebones, sounds like I touched a nerve. I hope you aren't the Jiffy Lube dude. If so, congrats on that sweet looking lobster (scorpion?) on your neck and the awesome sleeve. Make sure you keep this thread in mind when you are fifty years old and reflect on the dumbest decisions you have made in your life. I strongly suspect that blob of ink (have you ever seen an old tat?)on your arm will be right there at the top of the list.

I've seen lots of bad fashion fads come and go in my lifetime. Disco silk shirts, mullets, Members Only jackets, etc. These are all good for a laugh when you see them in old photos. Old tattoos are a different matter. That old faded blob of ink on your arm will not be funny, it will be a sad momento of your shortsidedness and the pathetic herd mentality that exists among young people (like you) today.

I'm not going to call you names (as you have called me) or give you anything but my sympathy.

Good luck with that sweet sleeve! I bet it will look even cooler when you are old!

Cheers

youre still an idiot.

cluless broad generalizations ftw.

This is the 41. That's practically all we do here.

Ignoring the people who are only here to piss on tattoos (and I'm kind of surprised there's so many of them), I gotta say that a full sleeve as a cyclist should be fine. You will probably tear it up a little if you go down, but I've seen some heal nicely. Will give the art more character, right? If you're really worried about it you could ride with a full sleeve jersey or those arm covers. That way the extra layer tears before the skin does. Course, then no one can see your sleeve while you're riding and, being a "shortsighted" and "pathetic" owner of a few tattoos myself, I know that's part of the fun of having one...or several...or several dozen. So either don't go down, don't worry about it too much, or cover it to be extra safe.
On a personal note, I'd love for some of you people to come on out to Hawaii and let these people know how you feel about their tattoos. Or if its a cultural thing is it ok? A whole bunch of them have it, seems kind of "herd"-ish to me. While you're here come to the school I teach at and tell my students what they should think of me and the other teachers who have visible ink. After you leave I'll go back to my lesson on treating everyone equally and not judging a book by its cover. The next lesson will be about painting a group with one brush (i.e. tattoos = Jiffy Lube guy = ignorant and never amounting to anything) and how that makes you look. You could stick around for it if you want.

Tattoos . . . needles . . . extended pain . . . uh, think I'll pass! :eek:

I'm more of a piercing fan myself (over with quickly). :D

FYI - I have several staff scientists and project managers on my staff with tattoos.

The distinctive tattoos across his face are being removed — the process is a slow one and will take at least another year — and he said he’s trying to establish some positive consistency in his life. “I’ve learned my lesson,” Clinger said. “That’s not something I want anymore. Whatever I do, I just gotta stay off the drugs.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/files...0_LOWres_0.jpg

Hey, Halloween will be here soon enough. The guy with the face tatoo should at least keep it until then.

Thanks for sharing. Clinger's story is sad and tragic. It's good to hear he is trying to get his life back on track. It's perhaps even more sad that every time he looks in the mirror (and every time he faces another person) he is reminded of the mistakes of his past.

Doug, is David one of your former students? Maybe he would be a good choice to address your class. I would wager he would be more likely to talk sense to them than you have. At least he wouldn't waste their time with the mealy mouth manny-pamby BS served up by the likes of you.

yeah, we know.

I like tat's. I've got one on my right shoulder, in a place where I can cover it if I want to, or simply by wearing a tank top it's visible. I want to get something else on my left shoulder, but just haven't found anything yet. It's great that a lot of you have jobs that permit you to have full sleeves. I haven't been that fortunate. I work in a place currently where there can be no visible ink whatsoever, as all of my jobs ironically have been except for a few when I was a kid.

I like ink, but I also believe that for the majority of people (obviously a lot of you have been fortunate in only relying on yourselves to make money) having full sleeves would limit their potential for various positions in the work force and that's why I chose the location I did. Likewise, all of the tattoos that I will get in my life, will inevitably be able to be covered with a t-shirt and shorts.

Just to clarify, in no way do I knock ANYONE who has more visible tats, in fact some tatts that I've seen in sleeves have been wicked sweet. In my case, 90% of my positions have been customer service based, and they have frowned on tatts. Since CS is pretty much all I know, I'll have to stay with my no visible tatts plan.