Where did you get the "s. hall" decal? I love it.

R230 ML was 2.65 lb, XL 2.85 lb. The R340 is probably lighter, but as said already, ask Lynskey, they will aswer. The weights used to be on the spec sheets, but it doesn't look like they still are.

Weights used to be advertised on their website in the geometry charts, but it doesn't look like they do any more. FWIW, my R320 was 2.4lbs (Large) on the nose, as advertised, when I got it.

I got it from http://bikenames.com/

Nifty company :)

Very cool bike, Steve. I see you've got SRAM components on there- What 'level' are they? How do you like them? I've been chatting with Lynskey, and they seem to like SRAM.... I've never used anything but Shimano. But, since I've been perfectly happy with Shimano 105/ Tiagra :)

-Andrew

The group is SRAM Force, their second tier group. Ive had SRAM Force & Rival, Ultegra, 105 and Tiagra. I think the best bang for your buck is SRAM Rival. Low weight and the same (or similar) internals as the higher end SRAM groups.

Really once you get past the entry level groups you cant go wrong. I just prefer SRAM. Double tap does it for me

We went down to the Lynskey factory last week so my wife could test ride a R230. The R230 she ordered should be ready in a couple of weeks. The brushed finish on the promotional bike is beautiful.

They did mention that the promotional price will be ending. If you're really interested, you might want to contact them for details.

Thanks for letting me know. I will call them tomorrow. I would like to buy two of them, one for my wife and one for myself.

How did your wife like the R230?

Have an R230, XL size (DA 7800 drive train). I like it a lot... it absorbs vibrations compared to my AL bike, with some springiness when my 195-200 lb butt goes over larger bumps. I feel like it is efficient in the power transfer department, not flexy at all, and climbs well.

However, I do have a major nitpick with my R230. Although the frame itself is beautiful and precisely machined, the derailleur hanger they put on it is molded AL (not CNC machined, as some other hangers are), and the surface that mates with the frame is noticeably curved (not flat). See picture. As a result, clamping down on the skewer closes the gap and causes my whole derailleur cage to flex inward by 2-5 mm, and the amount is dependent on clamping pressure. So reinstalling the wheel screws up the shift indexing and stop limits, as it is almost impossible to reinstall the skewer with exactly the same clamping pressure. Fortunately I have not had to fix a flat on the road yet, but have had problems in the shop every time I've reinstalled the wheel. It would be a most annoying problem to fix on the road. Hopefully they will come out with some CNC machined hangers to fix this problem...I have complained to them about it.

Don't get me wrong...I love the bike and the way it rides, once the rear wheel is installed and shifting is set up right. But if I were doing it again I would choose the R340, which doesn't have the removable derailleur hanger, even though the geometry is different.

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My R230 XL frame weighed 1465g (3.23 lb) including seat post clamp, cage bolts, and headset cups... the latter items would amount to about 60g (2 oz) probably. So about 1400g (3.1 lb) for the frame. Total bike weight is currently around 18.1 lb w/ DA 7800 drive train and Open Pros and SPD pedals, but new wheels and pedals would take it down to 17 lb. If I remember right the R340 was maybe spec'ed at .1 - .2 lb lighter than the R230.

Thanks for letting me know about the DR hanger. I noticed the DR hanger on Lynskey's website and I thought that it detracted from the bikes appeance. I would consider the R340 but it doesn't fit me. The only other Lynskey that would fit me would be the Helix, but there isn't a special running on that one.

Can the DR hanger problem be fixed and retro fitted onto a older bike? This may be a deal killer.

Holy mole hills and mountains! I can't count the number of times I have removed and reinstalled the rear wheel including a few roadside tire repairs. Simply put, there is no problem associated with the derailleur hanger.

I've have an R230 and have not had a problem with the RD hanger. From you picture it seems like the hanger is not seating properly.

I have had to repair about 4 flats on my R230 and never have had to readjust the rear derailleur after removing the rear wheel. Don't let one anecdote change your opinion. The R230 is a fabulous bike. I am running SRAM Force also.

Maybe I need to talk to Lynskey about why I am getting so many flats on this bike. This never happened on my Cannondale.:rolleyes:

Its because you cover so much more ground with the Lynskey than the cannondale.

I've had only one flat on my R230, unfortunately on a 40 mile 'old', Michelin Pro3 tire. In Michelin's defense, the road was littered with debris, and probably had not been swept in months. That was a few months ago, and still has not been swept. I avoid this road now. I have not had another flat on the Michelin Pro3 tires and like them a lot.

In response to the derailleur hanger, I have not had to adjust the rear gearing after the flat, or otherwise.

I'm glad you (and others) do not have a problem. Perhaps it's just a defective derailleur hanger and I will try getting a new one.

However, don't try to tell me that it's not a problem on my bike, or that it's a "mole hill" sized problem on my bike.

Not trying to minimize your problem at all. Just trying to point out that it isn't universal. You might try taking off the hanger and hammering it flat on the flat part of a vise. Aluminum is pretty easy to work. If I had to adjust the derailleur every time I took the rear wheel off it would drive me nuts. Good luck.

Yes, I should have said "in my experience". Je me give a s**t pas about yours. Your post suggested it was a common problem to the bike, which clearly, is not the case.

Also, it looks like just torqueing the screw down would close up that gap, and give you a consistent position.

One other thought, is the inconsistent shifting possibly the result of the derailleur hanger being bent? which might also explain the gap in how it's sitting.

I'm itching to get home now, so I can see/ride a few of these in person... I think I'm pretty much sold on the Sportive- It's new to the US market apparently, but has been sold in Europe. It has some great reviews... Like pretty much everything they build, it looks to me like there are few, if any, negatives.

So now I just need to decide on a size :)

I called Lynskey today to ask them about the ride quality of some of their bikes. The only two bikes they make that would fit me without a custom frame are the R230 and the Helix. The Lynskey guy said the Helix would perform much better but would be slightly less comfortable. It cost more too but it is an option I would consider. I would consider the Helix for shorter faster rides and my Calfee for longer rides.

I already have a carbon bike and want my next bike to be either steel or Ti.

Anyone here ever ridden a Helix? How was the ride?

Why rule out the Cooper? It has the same geometry as the other two you mention, and everything I have read about it has been very positive. Plus it is cheap (relatively).

You are right. I didn't notice that it had the same geometry as the R230 and the Helix. OK, I will throw it into the mix too.

Thanks

No decision there! Get home, check them out and get measured!