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merlinextraligh 10-26-10 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by renton (Post 11681113)
Well said!
I'm new to cycling and to this forum but after reading some of the threads here I'm afraid to ask anything.

I would definitely not be afraid to ask questions. And I wouldn't worry about posting something that's redundant, particularly given the spottiness of the search function.

However, if you have a question, sometimes poking around this site or the internet in general a bit first may help you phrase, and focus your question, which will end up getting you better responses to your question.

I think a lot of the threads that meltdown quickly, without the OP getting any useful information, are at least in part the result of not much thought being put into the question.

banerjek 10-26-10 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 11683183)
I think a lot of the threads that meltdown quickly, without the OP getting any useful information, are at least in part the result of not much thought being put into the question.

Just remember. There are no stupid questions -- only the ones you ask.

Seriously though, it pays to organize your thoughts and provide relevant details if you want a serious answer. If people have trouble figuring out what you're trying to do, it's a lot harder for them to help you.

RUOkie 10-26-10 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Razor From KC (Post 11683317)
This thread confuses me on several levels.

not a surprise

botto 10-26-10 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by RUOkie (Post 11683363)
not a surprise

:thumb:

coasting 10-26-10 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by RUOkie (Post 11683363)
not a surprise

like casting pearls to Razor.

Nachoman 10-26-10 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by renton (Post 11681113)
Well said!
I'm new to cycling and to this forum but after reading some of the threads here I'm afraid to ask anything.

http://www.wildsound-filmmaking-feed...ock_psycho.jpg
Be very afraid.

ahsposo 10-26-10 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Tulex (Post 11682151)
That's an insult to the females on here. Seriously.


Originally Posted by LawnChair (Post 11682165)
It doesn't bother us.

Well, I think I probably should apologize to all the girls anyway.

So to Tulex, LawnChair, Velo Gator and any other girls I may have offended with my ill chosen words I offer my apologies. :(

I really meant to point out that there seems to be a double standard when it's obviously a female OP. A recent case in point isjennifersmith23's post titled "I want to like cycling but... " and it features six pages of generally polite advice. If, say, Collin2424 had posted that he would have gotten maybe eight replies asking him what size is the bike and is he gonna put it on craigslist, one well thought piece of advice (probably from cdr) and the rest would have poked fun at him for a total of less than a page.

I'll admit I will try to make a lazy, thoughtless, misspelled and un-grammatical poster sorry he (or her) ever touched a keyboard. And I have regretted doing it on occasion when I realized the poster was sincere and "differently-abled" from the majority.

I am ashamed when a new member is intimidated, but in the heading to this sub-forum they are clearly warned it can get rough here. Asking thoughtful, clear questions on road cycling always seems to work regardless of sex.

botto 10-26-10 01:03 PM

tulex is a woman?

never realized. explains quite a bit of her posts.

Tulex 10-26-10 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by botto (Post 11683511)
tulex is a woman?

never realized. explains quite a bit of her posts.

;)

LawnChair 10-26-10 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by ahsposo (Post 11683476)
Well, I think I probably should apologize to all the girls anyway.

So to Tulex, LawnChair, Velo Gator and any other girls I may have offended with my ill chosen words I offer my apologies. :(

I really meant to point out that there seems to be a double standard when it's obviously a female OP. A recent case in point isjennifersmith23's post titled "I want to like cycling but... " and it features six pages of generally polite advice. If, say, Collin2424 had posted that he would have gotten maybe eight replies asking him what size is the bike and is he gonna put it on craigslist, one well thought piece of advice (probably from cdr) and the rest would have poked fun at him for a total of less than a page.

I'll admit I will try to make a lazy, thoughtless, misspelled and un-grammatical poster sorry he (or her) ever touched a keyboard. And I have regretted doing it on occasion when I realized the poster was sincere and "differently-abled" from the majority.

I am ashamed when a new member is intimidated, but in the heading to this sub-forum they are clearly warned it can get rough here. Asking thoughtful, clear questions on road cycling always seems to work regardless of sex.


Apology accepted. Wow! Girls are treated better. Might have to change back though, I'm having an issue with peeing.

tuxbailey 10-26-10 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by LawnChair (Post 11683556)
Apology accepted. Wow! Girls are treated better. Might have to change back though, I'm having an issue with peeing.

I thought you were some kind of male stripper?

KiddSisko 10-26-10 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by ahsposo (Post 11683476)
I really meant to point out that there seems to be a double standard when it's obviously a female OP. A recent case in point isjennifersmith23's post titled "I want to like cycling but... " and it features six pages of generally polite advice. If, say, Collin2424 had posted that he would have gotten maybe eight replies asking him what size is the bike and is he gonna put it on craigslist, one well thought piece of advice (probably from cdr) and the rest would have poked fun at him for a total of less than a page.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...m-time-to-time

LawnChair 10-26-10 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by tuxbailey (Post 11683642)
I thought you were some kind of male stripper?


On the internet you can be whoever you want to be. On a rare occasion I pose as a cyclist.

ahsposo 10-26-10 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by KiddSisko (Post 11683666)


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 11665833)
Answering a sincere question from an inexperienced cyclist in a forthright manner is not coddling.

This is where I quit reading the thread when it was current. This answer completed the thread, IMHO. Everything written after it was going to be redundant, frivolous or off point.

Normally I go for all that but I was feeling out of sorts those days.

banerjek 10-26-10 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by ahsposo (Post 11683476)
I really meant to point out that there seems to be a double standard when it's obviously a female OP. A recent case in point isjennifersmith23's post titled "I want to like cycling but... " and it features six pages of generally polite advice. If, say, Collin2424 had posted that he would have gotten maybe eight replies asking him what size is the bike and is he gonna put it on craigslist, one well thought piece of advice (probably from cdr) and the rest would have poked fun at him for a total of less than a page.

She definitely got an easier ride than is typical here, but sometimes that just happens.

However, not everyone gets sent through the ringer. When people genuinely appear to be trying to figure things out, people go much lighter on them. Other things that helped Jennifer included being very clear about what she didn't know and wanted to learn, leaving out bravado, being aware of the normal BF response, and nicely asking for something else. She included details that helped people understand who she was, and left out irrelevant ones that are fun to jump on. Writing in a style approaching standard English didn't hurt either.

Originally Posted by ahsposo (Post 11683476)
I'll admit I will try to make a lazy, thoughtless, misspelled and un-grammatical poster sorry he (or her) ever touched a keyboard.

And you'll notice she made none of those mistakes. Most people do at least one of those things, and most of the posters here are guys. If the women get easier treatment, part of it is that a number of them don't do the sort of things that normally provoke the regulars into having a field day.

Walter 10-26-10 04:07 PM

Jesus wept.

Diego can't believe it.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l.../Maradona2.jpg

Tulex 10-26-10 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Walter (Post 11684611)
Jesus wept.

Diego can't believe it.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l.../Maradona2.jpg

Someone should at least photoshop that extra hand out.

datlas 10-26-10 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by banerjek (Post 11683181)
I wonder if discussions there are as dumb as they are in the 41. That would be impressive.

On the off chance that there are still any women reading this thread, can we have a comment on that?

I am not a woman, but I have it on high authority that in the women's forum they strip down to their underwear and get into pillow fights nightly.

celticfrost 10-26-10 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 11684713)
I am not a woman, but I have it on high authority that in the women's forum they strip down to their underwear and get into pillow fights nightly.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2.../Blutarski.jpg

logdrum 10-26-10 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by botto (Post 11683511)
tulex is a woman?

never realized. explains quite a bit of her posts.

Me too, shame on me. Even LawnChair. I guess I should go to Foo once in a while but it's almost like gate crashing a party. I am already ignored at the Addiction thread :(

logdrum 10-26-10 04:57 PM

But what is highly irritating is the one that opens up intelligently but will argue endlessly if they do not get the the answer that they expected.


Originally Posted by banerjek (Post 11684149)
She definitely got an easier ride than is typical here, but sometimes that just happens.

However, not everyone gets sent through the ringer. When people genuinely appear to be trying to figure things out, people go much lighter on them... <SNIP>


Tulex 10-26-10 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by logdrum (Post 11684796)
Me too, shame on me. Even LawnChair. I guess I should go to Foo once in a while but it's almost like gate crashing a party. I am already ignored at the Addiction thread :(

You to what, you are a woman?

By the way, I don't think anyone gets ignored in addiction, man or woman.

logdrum 10-26-10 05:21 PM

You misunderstood, me too like botto did not know you were a woman. And LawnChair as well - I thought was a man. Hence shame on me.

Addiction has an undeniable core group and that is all good. What I said was tongue in cheek. I usually look for amusing coasting and VeloVol banter once in a while and was at one point curious how long that thread could get.



Originally Posted by Tulex (Post 11684879)
You to what, you are a woman?

By the way, I don't think anyone gets ignored in addiction, man or woman.


chado445510 10-26-10 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by botto (Post 11681030)
passive aggressive threads rock.

do we know what happened to your thread? that night i rode my rollers and realized i needed a trainer. ...aaannddd it wasn't there.


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