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Old 11-09-10 | 03:07 PM
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Old 11-09-10 | 03:36 PM
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I have a 175 Sram Red English Standard with 53/39 Sprint rings if anyone wants to trade for a compact.
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Old 11-09-10 | 07:40 PM
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Old 11-09-10 | 08:08 PM
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90 RPM, 2096 wheel circumference. Rings on top, 11/25 cassette on left (top 3 of 11/28 bottom), values are in mph.
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    34    36    39      |    50    52    53
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11    21.7    23.0    24.9    |    32.0    33.2    33.9
12    19.9    21.1    22.9    |    29.3    30.5    31.1
13    18.4    19.5    21.1    |    27.0    28.1    28.7
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14    17.1    18.1    19.6    |    25.1    26.1    26.6
15    15.9    16.9    18.3    |    23.4    24.4    24.8
17    14.1    14.9    16.1    |    20.7    21.5    21.9
19    12.6    13.3    14.4    |    18.5    19.2    19.6
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21    11.4    12.1    13.1    |    16.7    17.4    17.7
23    10.4    11.0    11.9    |    15.3    15.9    16.2
25    9.6    10.1    11.0    |    14.1    14.6    14.9
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22    10.9    11.5    12.5    |    16.0    16.6    16.9
25    9.6    10.1    11.0    |    14.1    14.6    14.9
28    8.5    9.0    9.8    |    12.6    13.1    13.3
I love when someone posts this because the irony is that in real life, as opposed to BF fantasy land, most people would not be spinning 90rpm--compact OR standard--where they would actually need their lowest gear; that's why they are in their lowest gear to begin with.
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Old 11-09-10 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by spinwax
I have a 175 Sram Red English Standard with 53/39 Sprint rings if anyone wants to trade for a compact.

I've got the FSA Gossamer Compact Crankset in a 172.5 collecting dust if you get desperate.
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Old 11-09-10 | 08:52 PM
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I love when someone posts this because the irony is that in real life, as opposed to BF fantasy land, most people would not be spinning 90rpm--compact OR standard--where they would actually need their lowest gear; that's why they are in their lowest gear to begin with.
Depends on how you climb. If you sit and spin, standing only as a last resort - this is how I do it - you can easily end up in your bottom gear at 90 rpm. When I had the nine speed drivetrain on my CAAD9, the two biggest cogs were 23 and 26; there was about a 12 rpm drop going from the 26 to the 23 IIRC. I'd spin up to 100+ rpm before I'd shift to the 23, because I'm uncomfortable at much under 85 rpm.
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Old 11-09-10 | 08:58 PM
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Depends on how you climb. If you sit and spin, standing only as a last resort - this is how I do it - you can easily end up in your bottom gear at 90 rpm. When I had the nine speed drivetrain on my CAAD9, the two biggest cogs were 23 and 26; there was about a 12 rpm drop going from the 26 to the 23 IIRC. I'd spin up to 100+ rpm before I'd shift to the 23, because I'm uncomfortable at much under 85 rpm.
Also depends how much climbing you have to do. I usually just hammer up any hills around here without shifting down (only a couple too ridiculous for that to work). But when I ride a long distance somewhere hilly I need to shift down and spin and not be a hero. That's what I keep telling myself all the time, don't be a hero, save some for later, etc.
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Old 11-09-10 | 09:01 PM
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Depends on how you climb. If you sit and spin, standing only as a last resort - this is how I do it - you can easily end up in your bottom gear at 90 rpm. When I had the nine speed drivetrain on my CAAD9, the two biggest cogs were 23 and 26; there was about a 12 rpm drop going from the 26 to the 23 IIRC. I'd spin up to 100+ rpm before I'd shift to the 23, because I'm uncomfortable at much under 85 rpm.
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Also depends how much climbing you have to do. I usually just hammer up any hills around here without shifting down (only a couple too ridiculous for that to work). But when I ride a long distance somewhere hilly I need to shift down and spin and not be a hero. That's what I keep telling myself all the time, don't be a hero, save some for later, etc.
Yeah, you two are correct, forget what I said.
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Old 11-09-10 | 09:12 PM
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I had switched last year, when I really got into riding, to a Compact because I was having a difficult time with steep climbs. I just got a new-ish bike from CL that came with a Standard crank. I took this up my favorite climb up Mt. Diablo in the East Bay Area and was able to ride up without any hitches. It seems like I was suffering the same, maybe a little more. On my climbs previous, I would stay in the 34/27 gear for most of the climb. This time, I was in the 39/25 for the first 2/3rds of the climb and 39/27 on the last third of the climb.

I will say that my fitness level had gotten much better over the last 2 months. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I guess I don't necessarily need to go back to the compact crank.
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Old 11-11-10 | 03:56 PM
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5 pages later, I bought an Ultegra 11-28. $69.99 @ PB plus 20% off.



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Old 11-11-10 | 05:20 PM
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5 pages later, I bought an Ultegra 11-28. $69.99 @ PB plus 20% off.



I think you need the larger rear derail-er to accommodate that cassette?
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Old 11-11-10 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by v70cat
I think you need the larger rear derail-er to accommodate that cassette?
According to many sources, the 28 should work fine.
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Old 11-11-10 | 10:48 PM
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Put the new cassette on. Seems to be shifting fine, but I will know for sure when I take it for a ride. And a hill.
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Old 11-12-10 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by v70cat
I think you need the larger rear derail-er to accommodate that cassette?
You did the right thing.Compacts are ok if you live in a very hilly area,the 34 is completely crap on the flats a real waste of time.
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