The biggest challenge to going pro?
#27
You mean that part where everyone is running around in Borat style g-strings and yelling?
#29
Yes, and obviously there are a number of limiters. I just think that a person with the right support has a better chance of "making it" than a person with the right genetics on a statistical basis. It's completely unfounded speculation, and this whole exercise is mental m***********, so any viewpoint is reasonable.
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In order; genetics, dope and politics.
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#43
I got to thinking about that "picking the right parents" part. And I guess that's true. But on the other hand, I suspect if you have the right parents, turning pro still involves really busting your butt to do well. Meaning if I had the right parents, I still wouldn't be in a position to turn pro, because I'm just not that concerned with it. So there may be people sitting right out there reading this on the screen, thinking "If only I had the right parents" when in fact they DO have the right parents, and just eat too many Cheetos.
Come to think of it...how many pro cyclists have brothers of similar skill?
Come to think of it...how many pro cyclists have brothers of similar skill?
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I got to thinking about that "picking the right parents" part. And I guess that's true. But on the other hand, I suspect if you have the right parents, turning pro still involves really busting your butt to do well. Meaning if I had the right parents, I still wouldn't be in a position to turn pro, because I'm just not that concerned with it. So there may be people sitting right out there reading this on the screen, thinking "If only I had the right parents" when in fact they DO have the right parents, and just eat too many Cheetos.
Come to think of it...how many pro cyclists have brothers of similar skill?
Come to think of it...how many pro cyclists have brothers of similar skill?
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I got to thinking about that "picking the right parents" part. And I guess that's true. But on the other hand, I suspect if you have the right parents, turning pro still involves really busting your butt to do well. Meaning if I had the right parents, I still wouldn't be in a position to turn pro, because I'm just not that concerned with it. So there may be people sitting right out there reading this on the screen, thinking "If only I had the right parents" when in fact they DO have the right parents, and just eat too many Cheetos.
Come to think of it...how many pro cyclists have brothers of similar skill?
Come to think of it...how many pro cyclists have brothers of similar skill?
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but still farther from average, than if you started with average parents...
and more likely to be better than the parents, than if you started with average parents.
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This genetic thing and busting your ass regardless is interesting. I was as a cycling expo about 35 years ago where they had this new wattage power meter that cyclists could use and test their wattage. This frumpy out of shape hippie dude in sandals and baggy pants was walking around and a marketing rep for the power meter asked him if he wanted to try it, he said no. His girlfriend urged him to do it for fun, so he got on it and cranked the highest wattage of the day including pros that tried it! This hippie dude barely ever been on a bike and didn't run. So genetics does play a very important part; with training who know how far that hippie dude would have gone, but he refused offers by several teams to train for racing. I was there watching all of this go down, it was amazing the offers he got.
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Yes, and obviously there are a number of limiters. I just think that a person with the right support has a better chance of "making it" than a person with the right genetics on a statistical basis. It's completely unfounded speculation, and this whole exercise is mental m***********, so any viewpoint is reasonable.
I got to thinking about that "picking the right parents" part. And I guess that's true. But on the other hand, I suspect if you have the right parents, turning pro still involves really busting your butt to do well. Meaning if I had the right parents, I still wouldn't be in a position to turn pro, because I'm just not that concerned with it. So there may be people sitting right out there reading this on the screen, thinking "If only I had the right parents" when in fact they DO have the right parents, and just eat too many Cheetos.
Come to think of it...how many pro cyclists have brothers of similar skill?
Come to think of it...how many pro cyclists have brothers of similar skill?
Thus, no one without being gifted to at least a certain level will make it regardless of how much they work.
And of those who are gifted, they still have to have the other pieces, such as hard work, good coaching, financial support, and some element of luck/opportuinty, to make it.
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You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
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You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
#50
They've had dynamometers and Prony brakes and whatnot for a long time. Whether the account is true or not, I can't say, but it doesn't imply a bicycle-mounted digital-readout power meter.
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