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Old 11-22-10, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by I_Like_Bike
Getting a new bike in a few weeks. Convince me why I should or should not get Speedplay's.
Yes, you should get them. Great pedals, last forever, low maintenance. I beat the crap out of my X-1s and they're still going strong after six years. I have them on both of my road bikes and Frogs on my MTB.
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Nothing to forgive. I'm not upset, and as I said you can post what you want, it was just a suggestion how to get better information.
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If your rides ever take you places where you get off your bike and walk around, forget Speedplay road pedals. The cleats won't engage the pedals if even a small amount of foreign material (mud, gum, dirt, snow, grass clippings, etc) gets into the cleat. The cleats also wear out very quickly (2,000 miles was typical for me) and aren't cheap to replace. You can devote a fully jersey pocket to the coffee shop cleat covers to make your cleats last longer -- but don't step in anything before you manage to get the covers on. If you have a tight budget for replacement bike parts, forget Speedplays.

If your rides start and end at your house or your car, and you never stop along the way to fix a flat, get some refreshments, or take a photo, then you can consider Speedplay road pedals. If you like to pedal through corners at high speeds, you'll like Speedplays better than other road pedals. If your knees require a lot of float, you should consider Speedplays.

Tell the jury how you plan to ride your new bike, and they'll give you a better opinion of Speedplays for your purposes.
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Originally Posted by Snapperhead
Just get the cleat covers, $10.
Yeah, I know, but I've just been resistant to carry them along on rides.
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Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
If your rides ever take you places where you get off your bike and walk around, forget Speedplay road pedals. The cleats won't engage the pedals if even a small amount of foreign material (mud, gum, dirt, snow, grass clippings, etc) gets into the cleat. The cleats also wear out very quickly (2,000 miles was typical for me) and aren't cheap to replace. You can devote a fully jersey pocket to the coffee shop cleat covers to make your cleats last longer -- but don't step in anything before you manage to get the covers on. If you have a tight budget for replacement bike parts, forget Speedplays.

If your rides start and end at your house or your car, and you never stop along the way to fix a flat, get some refreshments, or take a photo, then you can consider Speedplay road pedals. If you like to pedal through corners at high speeds, you'll like Speedplays better than other road pedals. If your knees require a lot of float, you should consider Speedplays.

Tell the jury how you plan to ride your new bike, and they'll give you a better opinion of Speedplays for your purposes.
I think you're being overly dramatic. I've seen plenty of people using them, and although they do have a similar sentiment, it didn't seem THAT bad.
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Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
If your rides ever take you places where you get off your bike and walk around, forget Speedplay road pedals. The cleats won't engage the pedals if even a small amount of foreign material (mud, gum, dirt, snow, grass clippings, etc) gets into the cleat. The cleats also wear out very quickly (2,000 miles was typical for me) and aren't cheap to replace. You can devote a fully jersey pocket to the coffee shop cleat covers to make your cleats last longer -- but don't step in anything before you manage to get the covers on. If you have a tight budget for replacement bike parts, forget Speedplays.

If your rides start and end at your house or your car, and you never stop along the way to fix a flat, get some refreshments, or take a photo, then you can consider Speedplay road pedals. If you like to pedal through corners at high speeds, you'll like Speedplays better than other road pedals. If your knees require a lot of float, you should consider Speedplays.

Tell the jury how you plan to ride your new bike, and they'll give you a better opinion of Speedplays for your purposes.
Which Speedplay models did you use?
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Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
If your rides ever take you places where you get off your bike and walk around, forget Speedplay road pedals. The cleats won't engage the pedals if even a small amount of foreign material (mud, gum, dirt, snow, grass clippings, etc) gets into the cleat. The cleats also wear out very quickly (2,000 miles was typical for me) and aren't cheap to replace. You can devote a fully jersey pocket to the coffee shop cleat covers to make your cleats last longer -- but don't step in anything before you manage to get the covers on. If you have a tight budget for replacement bike parts, forget Speedplays.
Exaggerate much?!
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Originally Posted by umd
Which Speedplay models did you use?
Speedplay X/2
I replaced them with Crank Brothers Quattro pedals (which have their own issues and have been discontinued) after a year or so.
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Originally Posted by Snapperhead
Exaggerate much?!
Hey, the OP asked for Yes/No on Speedplays. I felt that "No" votes were underrepresented. I used to carry a bobby pin in my seatbag to clean out those cleats. They were a complete PITA.
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Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
Speedplay X/2
The zeros/light actions are much better, the spring design doesn't foul as easily, dirt, grass, etc. isn't nearly as much of a problem. Don't paint all Speedplay pedals with the same brush. Really the only problems I've ever had with mine is when I broke a piece of the cleat inside that caused the spring to bind and I didn't realize it until I couldn't unclip.

Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
I replaced them with Crank Brothers Quattro pedals (which have their own issues and have been discontinued) after a year or so.
I have crank brothers pedals on my cross bike. IMO they unclip way too easily, which is nice for mountain/cross riding but annoying on the road.
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Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
Hey, the OP asked for Yes/No on Speedplays. I felt that "No" votes were underrepresented. I used to carry a bobby pin in my seatbag to clean out those cleats. They were a complete PITA.
Bobby pin is a good call. I've definitely had problems clicking in (but was able to with finesse and force) after unavoidably walking in dirty, sandy mud.
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Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
If your rides ever take you places where you get off your bike and walk around, forget Speedplay road pedals. The cleats won't engage the pedals if even a small amount of foreign material (mud, gum, dirt, snow, grass clippings, etc) gets into the cleat.
Got forced off the road on a downhill at 52kph last week - onto a muddy, grassy patch. Got a lot of mud and grass in my cleats. It was a little harder to clip in and out the first few times, but perfectly fine afterwards.

The cleats also wear out very quickly (2,000 miles was typical for me) and aren't cheap to replace.
6000km on mine in the last 6-odd months and doing great so far.

You can devote a fully jersey pocket to the coffee shop cleat covers to make your cleats last longer
You must have small pockets. One of my pockets fits my cleats, spare tube, patch kit and multi-tool quite easily.
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The Speedplay Zero rules.

The end.
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Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
If your rides ever take you places where you get off your bike and walk around, forget Speedplay road pedals. The cleats won't engage the pedals if even a small amount of foreign material (mud, gum, dirt, snow, grass clippings, etc) gets into the cleat. The cleats also wear out very quickly (2,000 miles was typical for me) and aren't cheap to replace. You can devote a fully jersey pocket to the coffee shop cleat covers to make your cleats last longer -- but don't step in anything before you manage to get the covers on. If you have a tight budget for replacement bike parts, forget Speedplays.

If your rides start and end at your house or your car, and you never stop along the way to fix a flat, get some refreshments, or take a photo, then you can consider Speedplay road pedals. If you like to pedal through corners at high speeds, you'll like Speedplays better than other road pedals. If your knees require a lot of float, you should consider Speedplays.

Tell the jury how you plan to ride your new bike, and they'll give you a better opinion of Speedplays for your purposes.
In four years of use, I haven't had my Light Action pedals foul even once. I have walked in dirt and grass but not mud. As for longevity of the cleats, I haven't kept track of the mileage but I am getting more than 5,000 miles out of a set of cleats. I changed my first set at over 5,000 and they weren't really worn out, they were just getting a little sloppy in their float. The new set I probably have 4,000 on and do not have any problems with them.

I don't use coffee covers, but I put Shoe Goo on the cleats which has the same effect. Makes them grip better, last longer and easier to walk in.
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I only really use the covers at home (we have hardwood floors) and to walk up the stairs at work. I generally have no problem walking around on the uncovered cleats, but it wears them out faster. At work the stairs are polished river rock embedded in concrete slabs. Stupid, stupid, stupid design.

So I bring the covers with me on my commute and put them on when I arrive at the gate at work. Otherwise I take them off when I walk out my front door and leave them on a shelf by the door.
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Originally Posted by umd
the stairs are polished river rock embedded in concrete slabs.
Yikes.
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Originally Posted by sbxx1985
Yikes.
Yeah, it's super-annoying and slippery, even in regular shoes. It was even a problem with MTB shoes wwith recessed SPD cleats, because the surface was not flat the rocks would stick up enough to grind on the cleat. The cleat covers actually make it not too bad.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
If you have knee issues, the float can help eliminate.
In some opinions they can help contribute as well to knee issues. For me they were terrible. I now use Ultegra pedals with much less flat and am happier.

Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
This really is a topic where you want to use the search function. There's a lot of information here, and most folks aren't going to type detailed responses to a generic speed play yes/no question, when they've done it 20 times already.
+1 on the search.


OP, if you try them get them from somewhere that will take a return if you don't like them. there seems to be a love/hate relationship with them. I agree with some prior posters that they can get gunked up easily and be difficult to clip into. In fact, I saw that happen to a teammate on Saturday during a trainig ride. He took maybe 3 steps in the sand and had to attempt engaging 3-4 times befor the gunk was out.

Another option to consider is BeBop. I think these are just cool and they are supposed to be less maintenance than the Speedplays.



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It totally pisses my wife off when I walk through our living room, which has hard wood floors. I basically walk on my heels.
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I really love my speedplay zeros, but they do require a bit more maintenance in terms of lubrication. I disassemble them every week to clean any gunk out and a quick spray of teflon dry lube everyday that I use them. As for getting junk in them and not being able to clip in or out, I haven't had that issue -- and I commute with them. Longevity of the cleat, I'm not certain, they certainly don't look pretty anymore, but they function just fine with 2K miles on them.
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Originally Posted by danvuquoc
I really love my speedplay zeros, but they do require a bit more maintenance in terms of lubrication. I disassemble them every week to clean any gunk out and a quick spray of teflon dry lube everyday that I use them. As for getting junk in them and not being able to clip in or out, I haven't had that issue -- and I commute with them. Longevity of the cleat, I'm not certain, they certainly don't look pretty anymore, but they function just fine with 2K miles on them.
Really? Wow! I lubed my first set of cleats for a while, but have never bothered to do so since then or clean them out. I've never had an issue clipping in or out. Shrug.
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Originally Posted by umd
The zeros/light actions are much better, the spring design doesn't foul as easily, dirt, grass, etc. isn't nearly as much of a problem. Don't paint all Speedplay pedals with the same brush. Really the only problems I've ever had with mine is when I broke a piece of the cleat inside that caused the spring to bind and I didn't realize it until I couldn't unclip.
And then this happened...thats his story and he is sticking to it. There is no way umd would have forgotten to unclip.
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Originally Posted by Carbon Unit
In four years of use, I haven't had my Light Action pedals foul even once. I have walked in dirt and grass but not mud. As for longevity of the cleats, I haven't kept track of the mileage but I am getting more than 5,000 miles out of a set of cleats. I changed my first set at over 5,000 and they weren't really worn out, they were just getting a little sloppy in their float. The new set I probably have 4,000 on and do not have any problems with them.

I don't use coffee covers, but I put Shoe Goo on the cleats which has the same effect. Makes them grip better, last longer and easier to walk in.
+1 my numbers are the same with my zeros with minimal maintenance. I lube the spindles every 1000 miles and drop some teflon lube on the contact points of the pedals periodically. I have never cleaned them much more then wiping them down. FYI, they are not made to walk through mud and sand so don't without the covers.

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Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
If your rides ever take you places where you get off your bike and walk around, forget Speedplay road pedals. The cleats won't engage the pedals if even a small amount of foreign material (mud, gum, dirt, snow, grass clippings, etc) gets into the cleat. The cleats also wear out very quickly (2,000 miles was typical for me) and aren't cheap to replace. You can devote a fully jersey pocket to the coffee shop cleat covers to make your cleats last longer -- but don't step in anything before you manage to get the covers on. If you have a tight budget for replacement bike parts, forget Speedplays.
Exaggerate much? They're not that bad. Obviously you don't want to walk around in mud, but you're making it sound WAY worse than it is.

And you definitely don't need to "devote a full jersey pocket to the coffee shop cleat covers," lol. Your comment makes me wonder if you've ever even used them. I put them in my jersey pocket with my windbreaker (yes, same pocket).
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