Salt Air

I would like to hear from people who have Cadd 10 5 or Allez comp both 2011 .Thinking of going to bike shop this week and buying one .The price is about the same .Looking for info likes dislikes ecct.



Thanks

wheelset

Are you talking about the Allez with Apex?

If so, definitely Allez.

Salt Air

Yes the bike has Apex.Do you think it's better than the 105? Both bikes are better than any thing I have had!

prebsy

I test rode both of these bikes and ended up getting the allez. It basically comes down to sram vs shimano and that is really personal preference. the only draw back on the allez is that strange crankset.

garysol1 

Can't go wrong either way. Either bike is a fine choice.

IcySmooth52

I agree that neither is a bad choice. Both have a similar geometry on the competitive side. I like SRAM better myself, and the Apex on the Specialized isn't the wide gearing as well. I like the CAAD 10 frame better though because of the tapered head tube and full carbon fork. That is a tough choice.

garysol1 

Allez has a tapered head tube as well but a carbon fork with aluminum steerer........

kabex

CAAD has a much lighter alu trame (30% lighter or something) and a full carbon fork that's also very much lighter, probably by 200 grams or more, so you end up saving some 500 grams on the frame set alone, and money in the future because you'll want a full carbon fork.

I like the allez but in value, the CAAD is a better choice, shame they don't offer it in apex because it's lighter than 105 almost negating the benefit of the CAAS

brianstalnaker

CAAD 10 5 (with 105) is a phenomenal bike. Any local crit or road race you go to, you will see a good number of these in the peleton...not so much with the Allez. Even if you are not racing, and i'am not trying to base all decisions according to what "pros" ride, but the stiffness in the BB30 bottom bracket and bull carbon tapered steerer on the CAAD10 makes its handling and acceleration hard to match...
Also, the CAAD10 FRAME is something that will stick with you and always hold value if you decide to upgrade components at a later date.

kimber_94806

Likewise I test rode both and fell in love with the CAAD10. Like what others said you can't go wrong with either one and it will come down to whatever is comfortable to you. Some things that I factored in as well are the frame, crankset, the full carbon fork, and the fact that I prefer Shimano over SRAM for some reason. Good luck with your choice.

darb85

Proof? The Allez frame is amazingly light and its a great bike.

kabex

I haven't been able to track down a scale shot but I started a fe threads about it and many people told me the frame set was around 2 kilos, and the frame being around 1400 grams.

The A1 is only 75 grams heavier according to Spesh so I can't see the e5 competing with the CAAD on the weight front.

kabex

Also it would be interesting to see a side by side scale shot of the 10-5 and Allez Comp.

Salt Air

Good info leaning to the cadd what about the rims rs 10 I am 194 lbs is it true they are weak ?

roadwarrior

I have a Cannondale so that's what you should buy.

That's the proper Bikeforums response.

Specialized sucks. I don't ride it so it must suck.

roadwarrior

Bikes at this price level really come with functional wheels. A really good set of aluminum wheels will generally run you just under to just over a grand. No one puts a thousand dollar wheelset on a $1,500ish bike.

Salt Air

Yes I understand that. But when I looked up about the rims the search came to bf with people having popped spokes . For the money I am spending cant and don't want to up grade rims.

rangerdavid

^^this^^


It's really a no brainer. You can always upgrade components, but the CAAD is the superior choice for a frame.

rangerdavid

Incorrect. that's the beauty of the CAAD frame. you can upgrade to Red or DA, slap on some zipp 404s and you got a crotch rocket. (and 404s as you know are much more than $1000)

Fat Boy

It's really pretty silly to choose a frame with weight being the overriding concern. While somewhat important, it's certainly not at the top of the list of criteria.

According to Spec. the Allez Comp frame has the same stiffness numbers as the top of the line Tarmac. The CAAD frames have always been known to be stiff as well, but just looking at them in a shop, the Allez would probably be the stiffer of the two in torsion (i.e. what we tend to feel in a sprint or climbing). The Allez tubes are also formed more than about any other AL frame I've seen. It looks like they really did their homework. The head-tube on both has tapered upper/lower bearings, but the Allez has a 1 1/2" lower bearing as opposed to the CAAD's 1 1/4". The Allez probably has a stiffer front end, which is a good thing.

The full carbon fork on the C'dale is nice, but it should be noted that this is not the same fork as you find on a SuperSix (which does have an 1 1/2" lower bearing). Regardless, it's bound to be a bit nicer (and lighter) than the Allez's AL steerer fork.

I own a C'dale, so I'm not biased against them. I have put a ton of miles on my Six13. If I would say they have a common short-coming it would be that when they stiffen a bike up (like a CAAD9, I can't comment on the 10), they tend to really lose the ride quality. Specialized seems to have figure out how to make a stiff frame that still rides pretty smooth. I have to say, I like what I see in the Allez. Specialized has put out a really nice low-buck bike. I also like the fact that they'll sell the frameset for a very reasonable price.

Having said all this, Either bike would be great to own.

kabex

I agree with everything you said and I like the Allez 2x more for being almost 1/2 the price as a frame-set, however long-term-wise the CAAD is a better choice simply because of weight&fork.

Everything else and it's a no-brainer towards the Allez as a FRAME-SET in my opinion.

garysol1 

Why in your own words is the CAAD the superior frame? I have yet to see any numbers or stats that show that the Cdale is superior to the Spec in any way with MAYBE the only exception being the fork. Its easy for you to say the CAAD is superior, now tell us why.




And why can't you do the same to the Allez?

wheelset

I've heard that the Allez, somehow, is as stiff as the SL3 frame, FWIW. I dunno how that can be, but it supposedly is.

revchuck 

Something else to consider - head tube length. The Allez comes with a longer head tube than the same size CAAD. This is part of the reason I chose the Allez Comp frameset when I decided to replace my too-small CAAD9. The other part of the reason is that my LBS couldn't/wouldn't order another Cannondale frameset.

Brazos

I would not worry about the RS-10 wheels. I wiegh 195 take or give a few pounds and have put several thousand miles on my RS-10 wheels (that came stock on my Synapse) and they are as true as the day I got them. I am not saying they are great wheels but you won't be breaking spokes. I replaced them over the summer with some 6700 tubeless wheels from a weight stand point but the RS-10's never let me down (still using them on another bike). RS-10's will take some abuse which is why they were speced on the bike.