Good. Let me know how that works out for you.

I can't imagine that any such study could possibly be done. Too many confounding factors. That leaves you to either accept the best engineering analysis available or not. Your choice.

They can be reasonably good wheels provided the wheelbuilder is good. What do you know about the builder? I see he's selling them "as-is no warranty". Doesn't sound like a bargain to me.

I had to use my "Pompous to English" translation application to understand that statement, bro.

Make up your mind ... other than 105 vs Ultegra they are essentially the same wheelset and given they are both heavy wheelsets I would go for the 105s and save $50 bucks.

You're quoting replies to two different posters. Context is important. In the first case the OP/105 set was recommended for a heavy rider. In the second, the OP/Ultegra was suggested for a rider whose weight was not given. Furthermore, there's a significant difference in parts other than the hubs. See if you can find it.

Whether or not a wheel will be appropriate for any particular rider depends upon the size of the rider, the rider's goals, the terrain and the rider's wallet. So, to belabor the point, Open Pro rims on Shimano hubs with quality spokes can be built in to decent wheels. Whether they are appropriate for any particular rider depends upon many factors. So I stand by both posts.

I do RIDE, just not in your category (yet?). If I didn't run events, then there wouldn't be many events here, and if I didn't support my club & team, as well as your club and team, and every other Chicago club and team, then you guys wouldn't have any fans Come one, you and I heckle hecklers better than anyone else, though next year I am bringing a bull horn, mmmm beer.

Shoot, our hookers...err I mean riders, are cheaper than you think FYI, we have another trick that hasn't been made public up our sleeve as well, should be interesting to say the least

Speaking of wheels, my old man stated he wants some and of course he asked about you, so hopefully he will get in touch soon. Gonna try getting a Twofor deal out of his wallet I want some beefy, heavier training wheels, kind of like the ones you did up for Rich, or even deeper.

Your hookers have standards though. they didn't like what I was paying. You know I love you guys and what you do around here.

36 double butted spokes an a rim like the Open Sport.
I built one for a friend who, after cancer therapy is back up to over 220. I used a 105 hub and an Open Sport rim and he has had no problems.