Is my fear of shop rides irrational?
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Is my fear of shop rides irrational?
Ok, so I've never been on a road group ride. Plenty of mountain rides under the belt, and I feel like I'm a better road rider than I am mountain. I've actually only ridden road with someone one time in over 4,xxx miles and it was two guys who are 60 pounds lighter than me, and work in shops riding all the time. I got crushed, and that was a while ago.
I've only been riding since October and I have been progressing quickly. On a relatively flat road, I can do a 20 mile ride in about an hour or perhaps slightly more if I catch lots of lights red. I don't feel this is slow by any means, but I don't know what to expect on these "no drop" rides.
So my question is, if my cruising speeds are usually 18-22mph, and over a course of a ride that usually is a 16.5mph average after factoring in stops, will I typically keep up with the group? I know you don't know this group, but it's a mountain shop's "no drop road ride."
They say they go slow, but what in your experience are shop rides usually like? I don't want to be that ******* who shows up on a race bike and a full kit looking like a booger when he gets dropped. I also don't want to be that guy who complains we are going too slow and rides out in front of the group. I doubt that will happen though.
I've only been riding since October and I have been progressing quickly. On a relatively flat road, I can do a 20 mile ride in about an hour or perhaps slightly more if I catch lots of lights red. I don't feel this is slow by any means, but I don't know what to expect on these "no drop" rides.
So my question is, if my cruising speeds are usually 18-22mph, and over a course of a ride that usually is a 16.5mph average after factoring in stops, will I typically keep up with the group? I know you don't know this group, but it's a mountain shop's "no drop road ride."
They say they go slow, but what in your experience are shop rides usually like? I don't want to be that ******* who shows up on a race bike and a full kit looking like a booger when he gets dropped. I also don't want to be that guy who complains we are going too slow and rides out in front of the group. I doubt that will happen though.
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they will have regroups probably. The worst is that you get dropped and everyone else is so busy riding their bike that they don't notice you. no big deal.
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Well thats the thing, if I'm going to be riding alone, I might as well just.... ride alone.
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Ok, so I've never been on a road group ride. Plenty of mountain rides under the belt, and I feel like I'm a better road rider than I am mountain. I've actually only ridden road with someone one time in over 4,xxx miles and it was two guys who are 60 pounds lighter than me, and work in shops riding all the time. I got crushed, and that was a while ago.
I've only been riding since October and I have been progressing quickly. On a relatively flat road, I can do a 20 mile ride in about an hour or perhaps slightly more if I catch lots of lights red. I don't feel this is slow by any means, but I don't know what to expect on these "no drop" rides.
So my question is, if my cruising speeds are usually 18-22mph, and over a course of a ride that usually is a 16.5mph average after factoring in stops, will I typically keep up with the group? I know you don't know this group, but it's a mountain shop's "no drop road ride."
They say they go slow, but what in your experience are shop rides usually like? I don't want to be that ******* who shows up on a race bike and a full kit looking like a booger when he gets dropped. I also don't want to be that guy who complains we are going too slow and rides out in front of the group. I doubt that will happen though.
I've only been riding since October and I have been progressing quickly. On a relatively flat road, I can do a 20 mile ride in about an hour or perhaps slightly more if I catch lots of lights red. I don't feel this is slow by any means, but I don't know what to expect on these "no drop" rides.
So my question is, if my cruising speeds are usually 18-22mph, and over a course of a ride that usually is a 16.5mph average after factoring in stops, will I typically keep up with the group? I know you don't know this group, but it's a mountain shop's "no drop road ride."
They say they go slow, but what in your experience are shop rides usually like? I don't want to be that ******* who shows up on a race bike and a full kit looking like a booger when he gets dropped. I also don't want to be that guy who complains we are going too slow and rides out in front of the group. I doubt that will happen though.
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Run surveillance on them in your van with darkened windows by following them for a few weeks, noting their speed and which riders seem most aggressive. You should also hack their facebook accounts to see what they are saying about you.
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Our shop rides break into several groups averaging from 12 to 21mph over 20 to 60 miles. It all depends upon who you ride with. If it's no-drop, they can't complain if you struggle. That said, see if you can find out the route beforehand and make sure you can find your way back.
I'm intimidated.
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Give it a shot and see what it's like. Worst case is you don't like it. Some nerves are fine and normal. Hey, another option is to jump in at a point where you would feel confident given you know the route. Go for it!
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Don't be such a *****, just go and ride. Worst case is you get dropped. You know the route so no biggie, you can't get lost.
Be humble and it will probably be fine...you will probably enjoy it and might even make some friends.
ps wtf you can't say p ussy?? I guess that means we can't describe some really gross saddle sores, eh??
Be humble and it will probably be fine...you will probably enjoy it and might even make some friends.
ps wtf you can't say p ussy?? I guess that means we can't describe some really gross saddle sores, eh??
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You must be very young, still not comfortable in your own skin. Why do you care what they think about you? Ride with them, and if you get dropped and they don't wait for you or encourage you, then eff them. Keep on riding by yourself and keep getting stronger. The whole point of riding is to have fun, getting in shape, and enjoying the outdoors. Constantly worrying about what a bunch of road nazis think about you is not fun.
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Most of the time they're more social and less intense. A group of friendly local riders will probably cruise around 16mph and just talk and ride. It's nothing to worry about.
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You must be very young, still not comfortable in your own skin. Why do you care what they think about you? Ride with them, and if you get dropped and they don't wait for you or encourage you, then eff them. Keep on riding by yourself and keep getting stronger. The whole point of riding is to have fun, getting in shape, and enjoying the outdoors. Constantly worrying about what a bunch of road nazis think about you is not fun.
I'd rather get up at 8am and ride alone if I'll be riding alone anyway.
@damnpoor, if that's right, then thanks. I'll have no issues with tiring if we are cruising 16mph.
Also, I didn't mention that these are the same guys I ride mountain with every week. I'm not worried about what they think of me, I'm worried that I won't keep up.
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I'm not understanding either of the last two comments...
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I guess my confusion on your eariler post stemmed from teh fact I always thought "no drop" meant "we don't go fast enough to get into our drops" or something along those lines. Never crossed my mind it meant "we won't drop your slow butt."
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I get dropped on my fastest group ride each week. i keep trying. some weeks I can hang on for 25-30 miles, other weeks i get spit off at 12 miles. i really don't care. worst case scenario is you get up at 5am one time and don't like it. if that's the case, then at least you know. but as someone else said, you might just like it! just do the ride.
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I'm intimidated all the time and I get my ass handed to me regularly, but I keep coming back because I get better and I like riding with the people I ride with. And, on some rare days, I dish out more punishment than I take.
Road cycling is a constant lesson in how much you suck. The faster you go, the faster you find the other guys are going. It never ends. When you can hang with one group, you'll find people faster still.
If you've never ridden in a group, show up and tell them that. Keep your ego in check, mouth closed, and ears open. Pay attention and learn.
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There are really only 3 scenarios here: 1. You are faster than them and you will drop them; 2. You are equally matched, and you will all ride together in peace and harmony; 3. You are slower than them and you will get dropped. Is there something else I am missing? If you are not confident that you will be able to keep up, is there another group that more closely matches your fitness level?
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There are really only 3 scenarios here: 1. You are faster than them and you will drop them; 2. You are equally matched, and you will all ride together in peace and harmony; 3. You are slower than them and you will get dropped. Is there something else I am missing? If you are not confident that you will be able to keep up, is there another group that more closely matches your fitness level?
Surely there is someone on this board who has done enough "no drop" rides to give me a general idea, and I can take it from there.
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You won't find out if you can hang unless you try. If they're too fast for you, good. That gives you a goal. Come back and train harder until you CAN hang. If that kind of challenge doesn't appeal to you, then you should just continue to ride alone.
I'm intimidated all the time and I get my ass handed to me regularly, but I keep coming back because I get better and I like riding with the people I ride with. And, on some rare days, I dish out more punishment than I take.
Road cycling is a constant lesson in how much you suck. The faster you go, the faster you find the other guys are going. It never ends. When you can hang with one group, you'll find people faster still.
If you've never ridden in a group, show up and tell them that. Keep your ego in check, mouth closed, and ears open. Pay attention and learn.
I'm intimidated all the time and I get my ass handed to me regularly, but I keep coming back because I get better and I like riding with the people I ride with. And, on some rare days, I dish out more punishment than I take.
Road cycling is a constant lesson in how much you suck. The faster you go, the faster you find the other guys are going. It never ends. When you can hang with one group, you'll find people faster still.
If you've never ridden in a group, show up and tell them that. Keep your ego in check, mouth closed, and ears open. Pay attention and learn.
Also, even if you do get dropped at some point along the way, it can be nice to have some social time at the beginning of the ride.
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You'll never really know if you can do it unless you show up. If you can maintain 20 mph on your own, generally it will be easier to do that in a group. Just let them know you have never ridden in a group. Watch the riders nearby and do not overlap a wheel in front of you. You'll probably really like it.