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RT 07-12-11 09:35 AM

All the white space in your posts confuse my simple Fredly brain. Do you fall asleep on the spacebar? I hear the older we get, the little naps help more.

patentcad 07-12-11 09:36 AM

I found a pal to do intervals with. Erich, former very successful Cat 2 racer in the 90's, now 50+ and 30 lbs. overweight, but still very fast on the flats. He hurts me on the flats a bit, I do that to him when the road tilts upward (I'm only 10 lbs overweight and dropping fast). We did 40 minutes of trading hard pulls today and both agreed that we'd never go that hard on our own. We'll start doing that a couple of times a week. That will get me into race shape.

Between that, my rapid weight loss and my Di2, you are all effed.

First race of the season Sunday AM. Rt. 29 TT. 35k (20+ miles) of individual TT suffering. I'm looking forward to it.

patentcad 07-12-11 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by RTDub (Post 12916654)
All the white space in your posts

That's called a BF Dramatic Pause.



































































Get it?

patentcad 07-12-11 09:39 AM

Erich (my interval pal mentioned above) turned a 54 min. 40km TT in his prime. To translate that into Fredese, that's an average speed of 27+ mph for about an hour. That is very fast for an amateur TT guy. Trust me on this.

RT 07-12-11 09:40 AM

Good luck at the races. How are you dropping all this weight? You know of course no matter how much you lose, you're still too fat for this sport... :innocent:

Velo Vol 07-12-11 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 12916671)
To translate that into American, that's an average speed of 27+ mph for about an hour.

Fixed.

patentcad 07-12-11 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by RTDub (Post 12916676)
Good luck at the races. How are you dropping all this weight?

If you ride 300+ miles per week and watch what you eat, you'll lose weight too. Calling what I do on a bicycle 'racing' implies that notion that I might actually beat somebody, which is a dubious prospect. But I shall pin the number and hammer on my TT bike as fast as I can. I did that race last August or September, I'll be curious to see if I can best the time I posted that day (I think it was an avg. speed of 22 mph). I'm slow, but I do enjoy it.

RT 07-12-11 10:27 AM

Slow is relative, fo' sho'. Nearing 50 and in better shape than all of my old drinking buddies who are in their 30's. I think you'll agree that slow and alive is better than young and sedentary.















Your Popeness inspires the Fredly masses.

Gorden Gekko 07-12-11 10:38 AM

"Between that, my rapid weight loss and my Di2, you are all effed."

Nice to know

patentcad 07-12-11 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Gorden Gekko (Post 12916960)
"Between that, my rapid weight loss and my Di2, you are all effed."

Nice to know

You of course are particularly effed.

patentcad 07-12-11 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by RTDub (Post 12916896)

Your Popeness inspires the Fredly masses.

Not for nothing, but the only other people I know who can average 22+ mph on a bicycle solo are amateur racers. They're not my pals who come over and burp up the beer at my BBQ's.

patentcad 07-12-11 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 12917110)
Not for nothing, but the only other people I know who can average 22+ mph on a bicycle solo

Not that anyone really cares.

And don't even ask me wtf 'not for nothing' means, it just sounds more dramatic at the head of a declaratory statement about stuff nobody cares about.

patentcad 07-12-11 11:04 AM

This sport is so friggin stupid. Look at the Tour de France where this week they have elevated Stupidity and Carnage to Wagnerian levels. It's amazing anyone survived week one at all.

Velo Vol 07-12-11 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 12917122)
This sport is so friggin stupid.

This forum is, that's for sure. It's time for some excommunications.

patentcad 07-12-11 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 12917666)
This forum is, that's for sure. It's time for some excommunications.

Calm down.

patrickgm60 07-12-11 01:28 PM


As for Kg, that's not so relevant on flat TT courses.
True. I've done a total of one TT. A guy I routinely drop on climbs (he's roughly 5'-9", 210), smoked me on the flatish TT. After the TT, we reverted to the proper pecking order..

patentcad 07-12-11 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by patrickgm60 (Post 12918023)
True. I've done a total of one TT.

You gotta start somewhere. I'm sure you're faster than me. Everybody is.

patentcad 07-12-11 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 12918038)
Everybody is.

Well, OK, maybe not 98% of the 41, but still.

KiddSisko 07-12-11 01:39 PM

Got a tremendous compliment about my riding from a 23 y.o riding buddy this morning. He and his friends ride and climb like goats. On short burst climbs they smoke me like a herring. On the longer slogs I generally beat them. The very definition of progress.

That is all.

Soloist Assassin 07-12-11 01:53 PM

It's probably mostly the bike.

Velo Vol 07-12-11 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by KiddSisko (Post 12918066)
That is all.

It is? You have nothing more to contribute to this community?

patentcad 07-12-11 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12918134)
It's probably mostly the bike.

Only if it's a Cervelo and not if it has Sram.

Soloist Assassin 07-12-11 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 12918155)
Only if it's a Cervelo and not if it has Sram.

I was referring to your situation. The P3, kills the Slice, and therefor is the reason you are faster. Not any silly reasons like increased fitness.

patentcad 07-12-11 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12918393)
I was referring to your situation. The P3, kills the Slice, and therefor is the reason you are faster. Not any silly reasons like increased fitness.

The P3 is way better than the Slice. No comparison. As it turns out I was only .5 mph faster on the P3 last week, but for a power output of 255, which is 35 watts less than 290 watts. Do the math, that's like a 12% power deficit yet I gained speed. On the other hand the faster TT time was on an 85º day, the TT from a few years ago was on a 50º day, warm air makes for faster times, so that may be part of this.

Either way, I'm too old, too fat, and too slow. But I do possess the Schwag and I do enjoy it, so the rest is total white noise.

patentcad 07-12-11 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12918393)
I was referring to your situation. The P3, kills the Slice, and therefor is the reason you are faster. Not any silly reasons like increased fitness.

TT's are big fun. When I first rode a TT bike, my first reaction was 'how the hell does anyone ride these bikes?'. So naturally, I bought one (on eBay, a year old 2007 Six13 Slice TT bike). I effed around with my position on that bike for a couple years, finally realized that the conventional TT bike wisdom (one size smaller than your regular road bike size) wasn't working in this case. I checked the geometry of the P3, decided a 56cm P3 might work better, then bought one of those bikes used off eBay for $2600. Mint condition. That's about $2K less than a brand new P3. The new bike fits me so much better. I'm actually comfortable in the aero bars. And I really do enjoy riding and racing the TT bike now. First off, you can't get dropped. There's humiliation when you're slow of course, but that's bike racing.


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