What SRAM components are needed to achieve Zero Loss?
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What SRAM components are needed to achieve Zero Loss?
My bike is all Ultegra/DA minus a SRAM red cassette. If I were to move to Red, part by part; what would i need at minimum to achieve the Zero Loss.
My guess (all Red), cassette, rear derailleur, shifters for rear and add front derailleur/shifter to enable it on the rings? How about my DA chain?
My guess (all Red), cassette, rear derailleur, shifters for rear and add front derailleur/shifter to enable it on the rings? How about my DA chain?
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thats like buying a nice suit and getting shoes from payless. Yes its possible, yes its cost effective, most people probably won't even notice. but you'll eventually realize you should have just spent the extra hundred dollars
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No, you can't just change the shifter to Red. He has all Shimano. The brands use different cable pull lengths.
The minimum change is any SRAM front shifter, SRAM Red rear shifter, SRAM derailleurs.
The minimum change is any SRAM front shifter, SRAM Red rear shifter, SRAM derailleurs.
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Possibly.
The Zero Loss is supposed to be immediate engagement of the shifters, no play. The rear Zero Loss on the Red shifter has less play prior to the shift. Exact actuation refers to the 3mm of cable pull when you shift.
The Zero Loss is supposed to be immediate engagement of the shifters, no play. The rear Zero Loss on the Red shifter has less play prior to the shift. Exact actuation refers to the 3mm of cable pull when you shift.
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To add to this, it's an "exact" 3mm for every cog on the cassette. Shimano, OTOH, has more or less cable pull depending on where you are in the cassette. This is why SRAM's rear shifting is so easy to set up and doesn't give you half the grief that Shimano does.
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Tell that to Pcad.
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For my TT bike with Ultegra 6700 it went like this:
1) Install derailleur, cassette, shifter, cable
2) Set the tension to fit the second cog.
Done ... hasn't misshifted since.
Does SRAM put it's own cable on or something? Does it auto-tension?
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All that being said, what is grief that you're experiencing with Shimano?
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Thanks! The DA chain? Are the special groves in the cassette optimized for a Red chain? I first thought that had something to do with the overall Zero Loss story. (Maybe I'm over-thinking this, guessing any compatible chain will do.)
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My bike is all Ultegra/DA minus a SRAM red cassette. If I were to move to Red, part by part; what would i need at minimum to achieve the Zero Loss.
My guess (all Red), cassette, rear derailleur, shifters for rear and add front derailleur/shifter to enable it on the rings? How about my DA chain?
My guess (all Red), cassette, rear derailleur, shifters for rear and add front derailleur/shifter to enable it on the rings? How about my DA chain?
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That said, would I go Red again? Probably not. It is nice to have but really, Force or Rival would suffice and would have been way cheaper to replace. I have scuffs on both my shifters from a low-speed fall (curb hop fail) and can't afford to replace them.






