I got booted from my group ride because I'm a triathlete (seriously).
07-25-11, 01:23 PM
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It's too bad that you live so far away. There are 2 triathletes in my area who would let you join them. Just don't ride faster than them and you will be ok.
07-25-11, 01:24 PM
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07-25-11, 01:25 PM
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It sounds like the issue was riding inappropriate equipment, not the events you compete in; and by your own words, you weren't asked to leave, only not to show up with a TT bike anymore. I wonder how many other aspects of your story are as distorted or lacking in self-awareness as the title.
07-25-11, 01:35 PM
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I am a roady but would not worry about a triathlete on a tri or TT bike, we have a few on our chaingang but they do normally ride road bikes.
Not so long ago, when small clipon tri-bars were allowed in road races for a short while in the Uk the spinachi typoe bars were quite popular in training as well. I actually used to use spinachi bars on my fixed wheel bike on the chaingang rides !!!!
Not so long ago, when small clipon tri-bars were allowed in road races for a short while in the Uk the spinachi typoe bars were quite popular in training as well. I actually used to use spinachi bars on my fixed wheel bike on the chaingang rides !!!!
07-25-11, 01:36 PM
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It sounded to me like no aero bars, unless leading. The group I usually ride with has the same rule. If you're pulling, aero bars are fine (as long as you keep it to the agreed upon pace). In the line? Keep off the aero bars.
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07-25-11, 01:38 PM
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If they are that stupid, why would you want to ride with them?
Pcad has a leg in the Road Nazi, the Fred and the Tri-Geek worlds (I know that's 3 legs, but work with me here). I could potentially negotiate a truce for you with these low-grade Road Nazi Scum. By the way, you now have BF Papal Dispensation to tell these morons I called them low-grade Road Nazi Scum.
Be sure you don't forget that 'low-grade' preface by the way.
Pcad has a leg in the Road Nazi, the Fred and the Tri-Geek worlds (I know that's 3 legs, but work with me here). I could potentially negotiate a truce for you with these low-grade Road Nazi Scum. By the way, you now have BF Papal Dispensation to tell these morons I called them low-grade Road Nazi Scum.
Be sure you don't forget that 'low-grade' preface by the way.
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07-25-11, 01:39 PM
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any group that expressed a consensus, unspoken or otherwise, that a rider riding on aerobars was too dangerous to ride in a paceline should realize that the consensus did not alter because they were leading the paceline.
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07-25-11, 01:46 PM
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This I don't get. Riding in a group is way different than riding solo, so why ride with groups at all -- especially on a solo bike?
07-25-11, 01:47 PM
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I wonder what their reaction would/will be when you show up with a road bike. Will they let you back in the clubhouse?
07-25-11, 01:48 PM
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I ride a TT bike and a road bike. I am also very experienced on the TT bike.
I clearly can't control the TT bike as well as my road bike (it is the nature of the beast). If you could map out my line of travel on the TT bike it would not be as straight a line as I can hold on the road bike. For example, with a good gust of wind, I will swerve considerably more with the TT bike than with the road bike.
My head also is more downward in the TT position (obviously). I will see onstacles in the road slightly later on the TT bike especially if I am pulling hard.
I think they did the right thing. In fact, you should be considerate enough to not even have to be told. I lost an entire summer once with an injury from some idiot in a paceline that screwed up. I wouldn't ride in a group ride with you either. If you want to ride on a road bike group ride, get a road bike and this is a non-issue.
I clearly can't control the TT bike as well as my road bike (it is the nature of the beast). If you could map out my line of travel on the TT bike it would not be as straight a line as I can hold on the road bike. For example, with a good gust of wind, I will swerve considerably more with the TT bike than with the road bike.
My head also is more downward in the TT position (obviously). I will see onstacles in the road slightly later on the TT bike especially if I am pulling hard.
I think they did the right thing. In fact, you should be considerate enough to not even have to be told. I lost an entire summer once with an injury from some idiot in a paceline that screwed up. I wouldn't ride in a group ride with you either. If you want to ride on a road bike group ride, get a road bike and this is a non-issue.
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07-25-11, 01:50 PM
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So I've been riding 3 mornings a week with the same group since early February. Good group, 5-10 people usually, Cat 3/4 types, and early risers (we go out around 5). The entire time I've ridden with them I've used my tri/tt bike with no issues, just the unspoken rule that I stay out of aero in the pack. Well, last month some of them started hassling me about riding in aero when I'm pulling, saying things like I don't make a good draft or that I won't be able to avoid things well (bs). When they were there I just didn't get into aero when pulling, no problem, no one else said anything. Finally last week a few more said that I needed to get a real road bike or stop riding with them, and today they basically told me I wasn't welcome riding with them on my bike anymore.
So WTF? I don't up the pace when I get to the front (except when they wanted me to), I don't ride them through glass and pinecones, I have the best headlight, I'm the only one who consistently brings a pump and tool kit, and I'm smoother in the group than most of them. So seriously, why hate on the bike? I did recently order a road bike (shop will get it in this week), but right now I'm thinking **** them and finding a new group to ride with.
So WTF? I don't up the pace when I get to the front (except when they wanted me to), I don't ride them through glass and pinecones, I have the best headlight, I'm the only one who consistently brings a pump and tool kit, and I'm smoother in the group than most of them. So seriously, why hate on the bike? I did recently order a road bike (shop will get it in this week), but right now I'm thinking **** them and finding a new group to ride with.
07-25-11, 01:52 PM
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I ride a TT bike and a road bike. I am also very experienced on the TT bike.
I clearly can't control the TT bike as well as my road bike (it is the nature of the beast). If you could map out my line of travel on the TT bike it would not be as straight a line as I can hold on the road bike. For example, with a good gust of wind, I will swerve considerably more with the TT bike than with the road bike.
My head also is more downward in the TT position (obviously). I will see onstacles in the road slightly later on the TT bike especially if I am pulling hard.
I think they did the right thing. In fact, you should be considerate enough to not even have to be told. I lost an entire summer once with an injury from some idiot in a paceline that screwed up. I wouldn't ride in a group ride with you either. If you want to ride on a road bike group ride, get a road bike and this is a non-issue.
I clearly can't control the TT bike as well as my road bike (it is the nature of the beast). If you could map out my line of travel on the TT bike it would not be as straight a line as I can hold on the road bike. For example, with a good gust of wind, I will swerve considerably more with the TT bike than with the road bike.
My head also is more downward in the TT position (obviously). I will see onstacles in the road slightly later on the TT bike especially if I am pulling hard.
I think they did the right thing. In fact, you should be considerate enough to not even have to be told. I lost an entire summer once with an injury from some idiot in a paceline that screwed up. I wouldn't ride in a group ride with you either. If you want to ride on a road bike group ride, get a road bike and this is a non-issue.
07-25-11, 02:30 PM
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A few notes: I've been riding with them 3 mornings a week for 6 months without anyone saying a thing, and they invited me because I kept crossing their path in the morning; I told them I only had the Tri bike, they still invited me. It was only 2 people who occasionally rode with us that had issues, no one else had problems with me getting aero when I was leading, plus when I'm on the pursuits it's almost no different from being on the hoods of a normal bike.
As for the road bike: I've been looking for a while, I've done a few crits and road races on borrowed bikes, I just wanted my own.
As for the road bike: I've been looking for a while, I've done a few crits and road races on borrowed bikes, I just wanted my own.
07-25-11, 02:32 PM
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Wrong. The issue is safety, not snobbery. People don't want to get hurt.
I recently rode with a guy who had tri bottle launchers behind the seat of his road bike. I did not enjoy it. The entire ride I kept imagining one of those bottles falling into my path causing me to go down. The last thing I wanted was to throw away an entire summer of hard work because he wanted to carry 4 bottles rather than 2.
I recently rode with a guy who had tri bottle launchers behind the seat of his road bike. I did not enjoy it. The entire ride I kept imagining one of those bottles falling into my path causing me to go down. The last thing I wanted was to throw away an entire summer of hard work because he wanted to carry 4 bottles rather than 2.
07-25-11, 02:36 PM
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I recently rode with a guy who had tri bottle launchers behind the seat of his road bike. I did not enjoy it. The entire ride I kept imagining one of those bottles falling into my path causing me to go down. The last thing I wanted was to throw away an entire summer of hard work because he wanted to carry 4 bottles rather than 2.
07-25-11, 02:47 PM
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Id find a different group. if you had proven to be riding at their level or better, than why was it an issue. I can understand if you were falling behind or slowing the group down or leading them into a glass pit, but since none of that was the case I dont really understand it being an issue. I wouldn't want tto ride with a bunch of people who didnt want me there anyway.
07-25-11, 02:49 PM
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Cyclomania, you're kidding, right? They aren't called bottle launchers for nothing.
OP, find a different group if you want. There are plenty of good folks to ride with in this world. Kudos for adding a road bike to the quiver.
OP, find a different group if you want. There are plenty of good folks to ride with in this world. Kudos for adding a road bike to the quiver.
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07-25-11, 02:52 PM
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They did the right thing. You belong to a different dicipline. The member who posted the pic of the htc team forgot to take into considration the fact that these guys are all trained together, riding the same kind of a bike a in a closed non climbing relativley short course. You don't see mix and match here. If you want to hang out with your rodie friends, htfu and get a proper road bike. Don't bring a T-Ball set up to a baseball game.
07-25-11, 02:57 PM
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07-25-11, 03:07 PM
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A competent rider on a TT rig is going to represent a far lesser safety threat than an idiot on a regular racing bike, and there are plenty of the latter.
07-25-11, 03:15 PM
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That's the alleged rationale. But if the OP is riding as he describes, the issue is Road Nazi bullshirt. I've been riding road bikes in fast pace lines and doing mass start racing for 20+ years, and I can assure you I'm no threat to anyone's safety on my TT bike if my hands are on the brakes if I'm behind somebody. If I'm on the aero bars on the front of the bunch, I'm also no danger. Sure they may be upset that they don't get as much of a draft off me, but in that case they should bite me. Or throw me off their idiot ride. Either one.
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Eh, I'm over it, I was kinda pissed this morning though. I learned a lot riding with these guys, I had the noob problem of upping the pace when I pulled, after a few yells I got that under control, and I learned the little things like how to check my back wheel for space before moving to avoid stuff. Plus I did my first sub 4 century with them, so good memories. I don't plan on going back once my road bike gets in, but I'll keep doing my morning rides and wave to the guys when I pass them.