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Old 10-30-11 | 07:44 PM
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Broke a spoke riding today. It was cold 31 degrees, the road was realatively smooth, flat and straight at the time. It was a rear spoke and the bike is about 1 year old with about 2k miles. I stopped imediately and called for a ride home. My questions are:

1. Should I replace the broken spoke or should I assume that there has been uneven stress caused by the failure and replace all the spokes in order to avoid a chain reaction of additional failures due to the stress created?

2. Since spokes get stress and progress toward fatigue with each revolution shoud I replace the spokes in both wheels.

3. The wheels are Shimano RS-80 with stock spokes, should I replace the spokes with a lighter better spoke?
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Just replace the broken spoke. If you have any more problems, then you can start thinking about other options. 2,000 miles isn't anything for a wheelset so you should be fine after replacing the spoke.
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1. Should I replace the broken spoke or should I assume that there has been uneven stress caused by the failure and replace all the spokes in order to avoid a chain reaction of additional failures due to the stress created?
Replace the spoke and then make sure that the wheel is properly tensioned and trued.

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2. Since spokes get stress and progress toward fatigue with each revolution shoud I replace the spokes in both wheels.
Replace the spoke and then make sure that the wheel is properly tensioned and trued.

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3. The wheels are Shimano RS-80 with stock spokes, should I replace the spokes with a lighter better spoke?
Replace the spoke and then make sure that the wheel is properly tensioned and trued.

Do NOT replace 1 spoke with something completely different unless it's the only thing you can find that will work.
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Old 10-31-11 | 10:42 AM
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I know that Psimet didn't mention it, but you should probably replace the spoke and then make sure that the wheel is properly tensioned and trued.
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Old 10-31-11 | 10:57 AM
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Yo, Psimet. I broke my first spoke on a 28-spoke Mavic Open Sport rear wheel using a generic Specialized hub with straight-pull spokes. The wheel has over 42,000 miles on it, and the spoke broke right at the nipple "just riding along." I assume it was from 42,000 miles of stress cycles, and that the other spokes are nearing the end of their life, too. I think it's more cost and time effective to just replace the whole wheel at this point. Agree?
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Old 10-31-11 | 11:35 AM
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That's a lot of miles for a wheel. Congratulations.

Wait until you break two or three spokes. Once they start breaking regularly then it's time to rebuild the wheel.
A wheel with 42,000 miles on it probably needs a new rim due to brake track wear. Unless you love the hubs its easier to buy a new wheel.
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That's a lot of miles for a wheel. Congratulations.

Wait until you break two or three spokes. Once they start breaking regularly then it's time to rebuild the wheel.
A wheel with 42,000 miles on it probably needs a new rim due to brake track wear. Unless you love the hubs its easier to buy a new wheel.
+1 - akanasakid - replace if it's just 1 broken. When you get to 3 broken - replace them all. That said the rim is almost assuredly toast. Don't spend the time fixing it if the rim will most likely crack and fail at the brake surface.

remember - rims are considered "consumables" through normal use.
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Old 10-31-11 | 03:39 PM
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Thanks, guys. New wheel set is already on it's way. I've gotten my good and more from these and time lost is too important. Heck, I never even did anything with the cartridge bearings on these and they are still smooth. But I'm more interested in riding than setting wheel longevity records. I assume one failure under no apparent catastrophic event meant fatigue, and the other spokes are tired, too.
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Old 10-31-11 | 05:32 PM
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My LBS called shimano and new spoke (to match) is on the way - interesting the spoke broke in the middle not an end.
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should i have the wheel properly tensioned and trued**********???
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should i have the wheel properly tensioned and trued**********???
You might want to consider it.
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should i have the wheel properly tensioned and trued**********???
Only if your mechanic says that he's a professional....

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Old 11-01-11 | 07:38 AM
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After you get the new spoke you should have the wheel properly tensioned and trued.
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Thanks, guys. New wheel set is already on it's way. I've gotten my good and more from these and time lost is too important. Heck, I never even did anything with the cartridge bearings on these and they are still smooth. But I'm more interested in riding than setting wheel longevity records. I assume one failure under no apparent catastrophic event meant fatigue, and the other spokes are tired, too.
Maybe this can now be a bad weather wheelset until the other spokes start breaking?
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Old 11-01-11 | 11:17 AM
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Maybe this can now be a bad weather wheelset until the other spokes start breaking?
I ride year 'round and don't relish the thought of having a broken spoke or two 40 miles from home when it's bad weather. In bad weather why venture out with equipment you already know is on its last legs? I'll fix this old set up to have on hand for what I hope is much later when the new wheelset starts needing repairs. It's probably good for a few more miles, but I'm not willing to bet on it when the weather's crappy.
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I broke a spoke 20 miles into a century. I put in a temp Kevlar spoke and completed the ride.

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Old 11-01-11 | 09:10 PM
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remember - rims are considered "consumables" through normal use.
Are spokes/hubs? I've read that reusing spokes is a bad idea because they get bent and set-in a certain way.
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Replace the spoke and then make sure that the wheel is properly tensioned and trued.

Butted spokes will usually break in the middle where they are thinner while straight gauge spokes tend to break at the hub flange... nothing unusual with that.
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Are spokes/hubs? I've read that reusing spokes is a bad idea because they get bent and set-in a certain way.
In general it's a poor idea to reuse spokes. There are times when it is acceptable, but for the purposes of this discussion don't reuse them.
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