Feeling fast vs going fast
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Feeling fast vs going fast
All my bikes have somewhat similar geometry and components, but different frame material. I definitely feel fastest on the full carbon, and followed by the steel bike, and feel the slowest on the titanium one. I did a few experiments and the actual speed difference for the same ride under similar conditions turned out to be very small (<0.2 mph).
So what exactly makes you feel fast? Is it the difference in the flex of the frame?
So what exactly makes you feel fast? Is it the difference in the flex of the frame?
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i haven't ridden Ti (or a nice steel road bike for that matter), but i would guess road feel also has something to do with it. don't steel and Ti have a softer ride than carbon? that might make them feel a little less quick and snappy...don't really know, just speculating.
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Wheelsets might be the culprit here.
Other than that i think it's also a function of cadance. If i'm doing a hard effort at high cadances i feel a lot faster than trying to mash a low gear despite equal speeds.
Other than that i think it's also a function of cadance. If i'm doing a hard effort at high cadances i feel a lot faster than trying to mash a low gear despite equal speeds.
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Yeh right, lighter bikes aren't faster, sure...yup. Sounds like a job for mythbusters.
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Right. Every brand and even different models within a brand can be different enough to cause over a 1% change. A 10psi pressure delta on measured wheel can cause a 0.5% speed reading difference. Even front/rear tire weight distribution will change readings unless adjusted for.
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I know a lot of variants affect the "real" speed, but whatever the difference may be, it pales in comparison to how fast/slow you "feel" on different bikes. I am just not sure what's the biggest contributor to this "feel". I can rationalize the carbon stiffness but it can't be just that making it "feels" so much faster that the steel/ti.
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Right. Every brand and even different models within a brand can be different enough to cause over a 1% change. A 10psi pressure delta on measured wheel can cause a 0.5% speed reading difference. Even front/rear tire weight distribution will change readings unless adjusted for.
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You associate certain feedback with speed and CF is giving you more of that feedback. That's pretty much all there is to it. If you can use the same wheelset on all three you can eliminate that variable.






