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Old 11-12-11, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by KendallF
The answer to a question nobody asked. Disk brakes, room for 29er tires, dynamo front hub, racks and fenders. The Origin8 frame has all of the right mounts, it's dirt cheap, and you probably couldn't damage it with a sledgehammer.

This is the new commuter rig, occasional cross race rig (if I can pick it up!), grocery getter. I already brought home the steak for tonight's dinner on it.

I still need to work out some lower mounting points for the rack, order fenders from Velo-Orange for it, and perhaps a front rack. Lighting options for the dyno hub are still under consideration also.

Yeah..it weighs 30 lbs.



Looks awesome! What frame is that? How much was it?

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Looks great! What frame model is that from Origin8?
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Originally Posted by BillyD
You call that a tank? THIS is a tank . . . weighs 40 lbs.

Poseur.

50 pounds... and it will carry a side of beef.



Kendall - Your "tank" looks pretty sweet.
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Nice rig.
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Originally Posted by Syncmaster
Looks great! What frame model is that from Origin8?
It's the CX 700.

Shakedown ride this morning, 40 or so miles thus far, including meeting the Sunday ' fast ride' (which is not actually very fast right now). I like it!
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver


'DaHell??
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Wow... this was my first road bike! 10 speed Continental - same color - brakes with the copper touches to it. My dad bought this for me in 1977.

Thanks for posting, this brought back great memories.

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[QUOTE=BillyD;13485832]You call that a tank? THIS is a tank . . . weighs 40 lbs.




Wow... this was my first road bike! 10 speed Continental - same color - brakes with the copper touches to it. My dad bought this for me in 1977.

Thanks for posting, this brought back great memories.
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My bike CX bike does a Robert DeNiro every year, from 23 lbs in mild weather to 28 lbs in winter;

Good weather;



Winter;





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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
38 pounds... the back wheel with the IGH and generator is good for 9 of those pounds.[/IMG]

Does the generator spin at wheel speed or cog speed? If it spun at cog speed, light intensity could be independent of road speed.
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Old 11-13-11, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gw280
This is my tank... No idea what it weighs but it's heavy.
I like this! Do you actually use the front rack system regularly? I may add the mount points for these to the steel fork that came with this frame (I swapped the carbon fork in when I built it). I assume you have to have panniers designed with the low-rider racks in mind?
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Originally Posted by BillyD
'DaHell??
Da "extrabike".

I did knock off a few hundred grams when I upgraded the rear d to an LX so maybe it only weights 49.8 pounds now...
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Panzer tanks indeed. Rommel would have been proud.
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Originally Posted by Looigi
Does the generator spin at wheel speed or cog speed? If it spun at cog speed, light intensity could be independent of road speed.
The generator spins at wheel speeds and does not need a lot of speed to generate full power... the hub is 47 years old but was pretty much NOS when I built it up into the wheel.

The IGH is a 3 speed with 2nd being direct drive where the cog speed matches the wheel while 3rd is a 4/3 step so the wheel will spin faster than the cog... it was an issue in the old days as there is no regulator and extremely high speeds could overdrive the bulbs.

As a winter bike it is not going to get driven that fast and an LED headlight is in the works as these are brighter, more efficient, and work well with older generator hubs.
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Funny how you guys define "tanks"... your average all weather bike with kit is going to come in a little north of 25 pounds if it is steel and when you add things like generators and lighting the weight goes up even more.
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BarrettSCV, what is that thing on the rack in winter mode? I'm perversely interested.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Oh you know what, now I see what you mean, it's not perfectly lined up with the headtube. I'll check it out.

Sorry, OP.
I bought a '83 Super Le tour at a yard sale a couple of yr.s ago. It looked like it had never been ridden. And I notice after looking at a pic of it that the fork had the same strange angle. Pretty sure it had never been wrecked.
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Originally Posted by KendallF
BarrettSCV, what is that thing on the rack in winter mode? I'm perversely interested.
Otivia Cargo Cache: https://www.otivia.com/

The Cargo Cache is a hard-sided, lockable trunk that attaches to standard bicycle racks. It can easily hold a helmet and more; a laptop computer, fits nicely. It is made of ABS plastic. It is secure because removal requires access to its interior and that is key locked. The Cargo Cache fits your bike; thanks to its unique hinge, it doesn't take any extra space when open.

Only for winter travel. It allows extra layers, gloves and other supplies that are not needed in mild weather.

- With lock & two keys included
- Made of ABS plastic



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Originally Posted by KendallF
I like this! Do you actually use the front rack system regularly? I may add the mount points for these to the steel fork that came with this frame (I swapped the carbon fork in when I built it). I assume you have to have panniers designed with the low-rider racks in mind?
I haven't really used the front ones much to be honest, as soon after I got that bike I got a road bike, and I couldn't keep myself off it!

I can't remember which panniers I bought for it, but I remember they were advertised as working with front mounts; my rear panniers definitely don't work on my front mounts. Unfortunately I can't check as I moved to Canada a while ago and that touring bike (and panniers) are sitting in my parents' garage back in the UK!
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You mean in your race? While the souvenir race bib is tempting, I am planning to ride the Penney Farms ride tomorrow. I have threatened to show up on this thing with a six pack on the rack, but I'm not sure I'm up to it. Maybe if I switch the tires..
I want to see you do Penney Farms on it in January.
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Originally Posted by lechat
I bought a '83 Super Le tour at a yard sale a couple of yr.s ago. It looked like it had never been ridden. And I notice after looking at a pic of it that the fork had the same strange angle. Pretty sure it had never been wrecked.
I've had that bike so long I can't remember everything it's been through, so it's possible it was dinged somewhere along it's million miles. Got it new in '76.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
I want to see you do Penney Farms on it in January.
You're on. I will swap tires on it, though.
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Surly makes some serious Tanks.

The Black OPS Pugsley with 65mm wide "Large Marge" rims.


The Moonlander with 82mm wide "Rolling Darryl" rims


The Big Dummy.

I once borrowed one of these and picked up 4 cases of beer and 4 bags of ice with room to spare. Everyone at the gas station came out to watch me load it up. Actually a very nice ride for what it is.

Extracycle makes the add-on frame extender to convert almost any bike into a cargo hauling machine. Very customizable to carry almost anything.




NAHBS a couple of years ago had this:
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While google is my friend usually, I can't seem to find an online distributor for the Origin 8.

That's a steal at 200$ for such a versatile frame. Makes me want to do a build
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Originally Posted by Rancid
While google is my friend usually, I can't seem to find an online distributor for the Origin 8.

That's a steal at 200$ for such a versatile frame. Makes me want to do a build
Pretty much any local shop should be able to order one for you through QBP. Fair warning though, my local shop was getting the run-around on delivery times for one of these frames. An employee bought one, I saw it and asked them to order me one, and they couldn't get it (at least any time soon). I ended up buying his frame.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
Surly makes some serious Tanks.

The Black OPS Pugsley with 65mm wide "Large Marge" rims.
I've ridden a pugsley - total blast to ride.
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